Re: [ga] price policy

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Esther and all,

Good point here Esther.  Maybe a good solution would be to
take away the contract (the license) from Spamhous's registrar and
registry, and in that way send a message to registrar's and registries
that this kind of behavior by Spamhous or any of there registrants,
is not expectable.  However I still prefer the Judges approach
regarding the $11+m fine against Spamhous much better.  Falsely
accusing e360 of spaming should not go unpunished regardless
of what organization is doing the accusing.  Also along the lines
of your suggestion, registries and registrars whom do not police
there registrants also should not go unpunished, and removing
their license/contract might be a good remedy as well or in addition
to.

Esther Dyson wrote:

> However, we *do* license drivers (the license is costly) and we take
> those licenses away from drunk drivers.
>
> Esther
>
> At 10:47 AM 10/11/2006, kidsearch wrote:
> >People use cars to drive drunk and we don't ban cars or limit who can buy
> >them. Because some people spam, we should raise the prices on domain names
> >or set a minimum? Do you really believe that setting a minimum price on
> >domains will have any affect whatsoever on spam? We could raise the minimum
> >price to $100 per domain name and there would still be spammers.
> >
> >As for the spam problem in general, yes it's a problem because it clogs
> >networks. Receiving spam as a user is no worse than receiving junk mail.
> >Better actually. I have to crumple the junk mail up and throw it in the
> >trash can. I have to pay garbage collectors to pick it up. Junk mail is a
> >small part of that cost. It also uses paper and few junkmailers use recycled
> >paper. All I have to do with spam is hit delete.
> >
> >There are many bigger problems we should deal with and since this list is
> >about ICANN and they have nothing at all to do with controlling or
> >eliminating spam, maybe we should stick to other reasons we do not need
> >minimum price controls. Actually not sure why with all the stuff that has
> >already been pointed out why we are even still on that.
> >
> >Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
> >http://www.articlecontentprovider.com
> >
> >Sorry if I rambled. Just woke up and my first email is something from veni
> >suggesting setting minimum prices for domain names can somehow be related to
> >or deal with spam. Maybe I'm just dreaming and he didn't really say that.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Veni Markovski" <veni@xxxxxxxx>
> >To: "elliot noss" <enoss@xxxxxxxxxx>; "ga" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:00 PM
> >Subject: Re: [ga] price policy
> >
> >
> > > I was also thinking that way, but recently I got some complaints from
> > > normal businesses, complaining from the low-cost domain names as
> > > sources for spam. People register millions of domain names; then they
> > > create fake content, and make money from PPC. That is, they use the
> > > low prices of domain names to make money out of spam. They say the
> > > majority of spam comes from .info, .org and other cheap (< $ 1 ) domains.
> > >
> > > veni
> > >
> > > At 11:19 AM 10.10.2006 '?.'  -0400, elliot noss wrote:
> > > >that is an easy one. no.
> > > >
> > > >On 10-Oct-06, at 10:06 AM, Veni Markovski wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>Everyone has opinion on the price policy for TLDs.
> > > >>
> > > >>I hear arguments about the roof of the prices, but I haven't seen
> > > >>anything on the foundation. So, my questions is, should there be
> > > >>some regulation for the minimum required price for TLD?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Sincerely,
> > > >>Veni Markovski
> > > >>http://www.veni.com
> > > >>
> > > >>check also my blog:
> > > >>http://blog.veni.com
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Veni Markovski
> > > http://www.veni.com
> > >
> > > check also my blog:
> > > http://blog.veni.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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