RE: [ga] price policy

["Paul Stahura" <stahura@xxxxxxxx>]

Veni, wouldn't the spam blockers and seach engines then downgrade/block
domains in the low-price TLDs? why is rasing price the only solution to
this "problem".  There are other solutions, look at the .mail TLD
application. Also I beleive there are at least one or two ccTLDs that
are free, and of course anyone can create free subdomains, if free
domains causes problems, why don't we see tons of spam from these free
ccTLDs?

On the question of should there be a minimum price for domains,
I agree with Elliot: "no".

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Veni Markovski
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 8:03 AM
To: kidsearch; elliot noss; ga; Veni Markovski
Subject: Re: [ga] price policy

Chris,
before you write down, perhaps you should have woken up first.
It's not me who is suggesting this. I was just forwarding a concern 
from a legitimate business in my part of the world, where cheap 
domain names cause problems - not only with e-mails, btw, but also 
with search engines, advertising, etc.

The discussion about minimum/maximum/no-limit prirce is exactly for 
this list. Note - it's a discussion, and not an opinion, which I am 
trying to enforce on you (unlike many times, when members of the list 
enter the "discussion" with opinions, and that means there's no real 
discussion).

veni

At 10:47 AM 11.10.2006 '?.'  -0400, kidsearch wrote:
>People use cars to drive drunk and we don't ban cars or limit who can
buy
>them. Because some people spam, we should raise the prices on domain
names
>or set a minimum? Do you really believe that setting a minimum price on
>domains will have any affect whatsoever on spam? We could raise the
minimum
>price to $100 per domain name and there would still be spammers.
>
>As for the spam problem in general, yes it's a problem because it clogs
>networks. Receiving spam as a user is no worse than receiving junk
mail.
>Better actually. I have to crumple the junk mail up and throw it in the
>trash can. I have to pay garbage collectors to pick it up. Junk mail is
a
>small part of that cost. It also uses paper and few junkmailers use
recycled
>paper. All I have to do with spam is hit delete.
>
>There are many bigger problems we should deal with and since this list
is
>about ICANN and they have nothing at all to do with controlling or
>eliminating spam, maybe we should stick to other reasons we do not need
>minimum price controls. Actually not sure why with all the stuff that
has
>already been pointed out why we are even still on that.
>
>Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
>http://www.articlecontentprovider.com
>
>Sorry if I rambled. Just woke up and my first email is something from
veni
>suggesting setting minimum prices for domain names can somehow be
related to
>or deal with spam. Maybe I'm just dreaming and he didn't really say
that.
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Veni Markovski" <veni@xxxxxxxx>
>To: "elliot noss" <enoss@xxxxxxxxxx>; "ga" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:00 PM
>Subject: Re: [ga] price policy
>
>
> > I was also thinking that way, but recently I got some complaints
from
> > normal businesses, complaining from the low-cost domain names as
> > sources for spam. People register millions of domain names; then
they
> > create fake content, and make money from PPC. That is, they use the
> > low prices of domain names to make money out of spam. They say the
> > majority of spam comes from .info, .org and other cheap (< $ 1 )
domains.
> >
> > veni
> >
> > At 11:19 AM 10.10.2006 '?.'  -0400, elliot noss wrote:
> > >that is an easy one. no.
> > >
> > >On 10-Oct-06, at 10:06 AM, Veni Markovski wrote:
> > >
> > >>Everyone has opinion on the price policy for TLDs.
> > >>
> > >>I hear arguments about the roof of the prices, but I haven't seen
> > >>anything on the foundation. So, my questions is, should there be
> > >>some regulation for the minimum required price for TLD?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Sincerely,
> > >>Veni Markovski
> > >>http://www.veni.com
> > >>
> > >>check also my blog:
> > >>http://blog.veni.com
> > >>
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Veni Markovski
> > http://www.veni.com
> >
> > check also my blog:
> > http://blog.veni.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Sincerely,
Veni Markovski
http://www.veni.com

check also my blog:
http://blog.veni.com