Re: [ga] The Future of Domain Registry Pricing, if left uncapped
At 09:49 PM 08.8.2006 '?.' -0700, George Kirikos wrote: I have no desire to run for the Board. I can be far more effective on the outside, neutral and untainted, and not associated with the continual failures of the Board. Success has many fathers, failure - only one, as we say in Bulgaria. So, you are no exception from the rule. But I think you have fundamental errors in your statement. And I am sure you can find them easily. It's unclear one can even make any difference as part of the Board -- Michael Palage saw better possibilities outside of it. I can't speak for Mike, and I am wondering what gives you the right to speak on his behalf? Why not consider other possibilities for his desire to leave? Oh, yes, I know why - because they will not suit your purpose. Even Esther Dyson, a past president of ICANN, distanced herself from its failures: And again, quoting a sentence out of the context, and esp. from these two sources, is not a good way to make a point. If you want to make a point, either read the whole article, or find alternative sources. Your quotes lead to a conclusion that you are reading only one newspaper, and trust all written there? pro-competitive. I wrote that in my prior message to you, which you're replying to, but which you've conveniently failed to address: Oh, not, I am not failing. There are two options: a) I am busy, or b) I haven't read it. Was ICANN lying to the court that price caps are considered pro-competitve? Or were they telling the truth? Again, questions which result in you expecting an ICANN position, should be addressed to the President, or the Chair. If they were telling the truth, why is ICANN even putting forth for comment proposed contracts that are anti-competitive, by eliminating all price caps on .biz/org/info? Try to answer these questions next time, even if they make you uncomfortable. Ignoring them again just makes you look weak. Your logic is simple: if I tell Veni he will look weak, he has to respond. You forget several things: Why do you think I'd be interested in looking strong in your eyes? Why do you thik that my pride will let me forget that these are questions which are not for me? You do not ask Veni Markovski as a lawyer (thanks for searching), but you ask me to speak on behalf of ICANN. That will not happen. And also, let's not forget that a wrong question leads to a wrong answer. > I still don't understand - why do you think the registrants, the > normal registrants, who pay today between $ 10 and $ 35 / year, would > care about what you care? Somehow I don't see this as a concern. I > see other items, which you are not covering. Why? Oh, you mean I am not talking to you, and I haven't seen you. It's quite easy to say that. And quite wrong, in its foundations. the market was opened to competition, Network Solutions had a 100% market share initially, at $35/yr for a domain name registration. Yet, now in 2006, GoDaddy is *twice* the size of Network Solutions, measured by the number of registrations: Oh, really? And how much do they charge today? In "your" world, why NS is still charging $ 35, and why GoDaddy is chargin $ 8.95 for domain? Customers choose GoDaddy because they offer *value*, through lower price combined with good service. Customers choose GoDaddy, and they pay $ 8.95, but they also choose NS for $ 35. It's complitely irelevant for our discussion how many customers choose one or the other. There are a lot more domains registered today because of lower prices. Lower prices are repeatedly cited by ICANN in testimonies before Congress as one of its successes. Yet, you say price doesn't matter. Why are you pretending you don't understand? Is it because you want just to make your point, and you hope that people would not read my earlier posting? It becomes like a game - I write, you make your points with "intepreting" what I said. Read again what I said. Than change your statements accordingly. Folks will drive across town to save on gasoline or other expenses. Oh, really? Let's see now your logic. Folks will do that? They will spend 4 hours driving, spending so much gas as to cut the savings from buying the cheaper one. Folks may do that. But if they do that all the time, why have gas stations with higher prices? Why your local Deli sells the Diet Pepsi at $ 2 / 2 L. bottle, and the bigger shops sell it at $ 1.40. Yet, they both are existing, and making money. Are you an economist? Or psychologist? Have you professionally studied markets and customers' behaviour? Folks will change registrars to save money. I've seen folks changin gas stations and shops to save time. From what you say, you talk abou the folks, who have time, but not have money. And, as we see from my examples above, there are also people who save time, and are willing to spend some more money for that. > George, why today there are companies that charge more than the $ 6? > Will they increase their prices, if VeriSign increased their price, > or they will keep the price, and lower their profit? You care about > registrants, you say. I do, too. But for the normal registrants, not > for the commercial ones. You say you care about registrants, but do > you believe they will be influenced by price increase? Or by new > TLDs? Why not use the ccTLDs? Will you be nice enough to point me how did you reach from my words to your conclusions? I somehow don't see the link. And I think it's not on purpose that you've made it on your own. You've got be kidding. This is demonstrative of how out of touch with reality you truly are. No, what you say just demonstrates that I am not part of your "reality". Perhaps Isaak Asimov's books can help you there. I'm on the side of registrants who *DON'T* want to change their domain names.
switch to a different domain and start over from scratch. I truly wonder what planet you are on when you, as a BOARD member would suggest they should switch to other TLDs, and abandon their existing domains. I think you should be looking more positively on life in general, and on my postings in particular. That may help you get away from your obsession about the ICANN Board, with people who have lost connection with reality, etc... You sound like an evil fairytale.
Oh, I see... Then ICANN has raised the price to $ 6 again, immediately, and that had no effect on the end-users prices... I see what you mean - if that's what you meant? rate of inflation, in an environment where technology costs are FALLING. Most registrars are not charging $35, because competition has driven prices a lot closer to $6 than to $35. So, you are still not responding to what I asked. If what you say is correct, then Network Solutions would have stopped to exist. Why are they still chargin $ 35. Why is Tucows charging more than GoDaddy? How could they actually live? You and I obviously have different agendas. I'm for the consumer, fighting to protect them from monopolist registries. What are you fighting for? You live in a world where people fight. I live in a world where people cooperate for the public benefit. That explains why you are misinterpreting my words, too. Because you want to adjust them to your world. :-) increases, were you thinking of the consumers who would be paying those higher prices? What I was thinking is well reflected in the minutes from the meetings. Actually that's one thing that the Board does now, too - scripts, minutes, public meetings, etc. The funny thing is that you ask so many questions, and they are all leading. Why, George? Why do you ask leading questions? Why don't you try to ask some more balanced, peaceful questions, which are looking towards the positive sides of life? veni
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