Re: [ga] netiqette and Danny

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Veni and all former DNSO GA members or other interested stakeholders/users,

  If ICANN BoD members do not represent ICANN, whom do they
represent? Hezbollah maybe? SIG's? Registries/registrars only?  However
I agree ICANN BoD members haven't represented ICANN or
stakeholders/users, yet they are supposed to.

Veni Markovski wrote:

> At 11:43 AM 03.8.2006 '?.'  -0400, kidsearch wrote:
>
> >1. The proper channel to ask ICANN questions about its activities,
> >is through the Chair of the Board, or the President. That would be
> >okay, if it ever actually produced a response.
>
> Ha? Even Danny himself has been quoting responses from Vint to him,
> again in this mailng list.
>
> >2. Asking individual directors for their "guidance" is not the right
> >way to deal with an organization. At least not with ICANN, because
> >individual directors have no interest in understanding what users
> >have to say. If I want to deal with the US government I email or
> >phone my congressman. I don't call the President of the US. So your
> >idea of organization seems to conflict with others.
>
> I see. So, for you ICANN = US government. Very interesting, I admit.
> I've never thought about it. Thanks for pointing it out.
>
> >3. Your desire to look for guidance from individual directors is
> >understandabel, as the history of ICANN is full with strong
> >individuals, who may have been giving guidance to you before. The
> >problem is that none of the board members are giving guidance.
>
> And they certainly do a good job, then, if that's what they do.
> Perhaps you should read the by-laws and see what the directors could
> do as directors. Now, if someone was asking my own opinion on an
> issue - that's quite different, and I would have gladly give it. But
> no, you ask me about my guidance as a director. Representing who?
> ICANN? The Community? Me? ISOC-Bulgaria?
>
> >4. It's better for the broader Internet community to have a strong
> >ICANN, than just strong individuals with desire to give guidance
> >when asked. How can you have any idea what is in the best interest
> >of the Internet community when you do not listen to them?
>
> I can.
>
> >5. As for your questions, see the minutes of our January meeting.
> >And note - I do not make comments, or give the "guidance" you
> >requested. Neither you should expect me to comment on this - if you
> >need the comments, read point # 1 above. Rule Number 1: The Board is
> >always right. Rule Number 2. If the board is ever wrong, see rule number 1.
>
> Chris, Chris... When you can't comment on something, just don't do
> it. By using old jokes, you don't make a point. You make a point only
> that you can't respond reasonably to the fact that directors can not
> and should not represent ICANN.
>
> veni

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