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Re: [ga] FW: Fee for disproportionate deletes in proposed .biz contract

  • To: "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>, <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] FW: Fee for disproportionate deletes in proposed .biz contract
  • From: "kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:40:37 -0400
  • References: <C6402C6F0493AA4DBCB9E62F0911E1FC01885636@stntexch06.cis.neustar.com>
  • Sender: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

still doesn't define " disproportionate deletes' or why there is any need at
all for a grace period that can be abused and is obviously being abused ata
much higher rate than it is benefitting users.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 4:01 PM
Subject: [ga] FW: Fee for disproportionate deletes in proposed .biz contract


> FYI, this was not previously posted to the list although Danny
> referenced it in a previous post.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neuman, Jeff
> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:34 AM
> To: 'Danny Younger'
> Cc: jnevett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; vint@xxxxxxxxxx;
> Neuman, Jeff; 'John Jeffrey'
> Subject: RE: Fee for disproportionate deletes in proposed .biz contract
>
> Danny,
>
> I appreciate your question, but you may be making assumptions at this
> point that are not based in fact.  There is a reference to
> disproportionate deletes in both our Functional Specs (Appendix 7) and
> in the Registry Registrar Agreement (Appendix 8)
> (http://www.icann.org/tlds/agreements/biz/registry-agmt-app-28jul06.pdf)
> , but there is no intent to charge any fees without going through
> ICANN's new process for registry services.
>
> In addition, I will note for the record, that this provision appears in
> the already executed .net agreement and the ICANN-approved .com
> agreement. More specifically, they state:
>
> "Delete. If a domain is deleted within the Add Grace Period, the
> sponsoring Registrar at the time of the deletion is credited for the
> amount of the registration; provided, however, that Registry Operator
> shall have the right to charge Registrars a fee as set forth in its
> Registry-Registrar Agreement for disproportionate deletes during the Add
> Grace Period."  http://www.icann.org/tlds/agreements/net/appendix7.html
> and
> http://www.icann.org/topics/vrsn-settlement/revised-appendix7-clean-29ja
> n06.pdf
>
> Hope that help explain things.  Feel free to let me know if you have any
> other questions.
>
>
>
> Jeffrey J. Neuman, Esq.
> Sr. Director, Law, Advanced Services  & Business Development
>
> NeuStar, Inc.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Danny Younger [mailto:dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 11:08 AM
> To: Neuman, Jeff
> Cc: jnevett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; vint@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Fee for disproportionate deletes in proposed .biz contract
>
> Dear Jeff,
>
> The proposed .biz contract includes on page 80 the
> following statement:  "Fee for disproportionate
> deletes during Add Grace Period."
>
> The amount of the fee is not stated nor is there a
> definition provided of that which constitutes
> "disproportionate".  Can we talk about this?
>
> While I appreciate the proactive measures that you are
> taking to deal with the "domain tasting" epidemic, I
> remain of the belief that domain name policy issues
> are best dealt with on the basis of a community
> consensus-development process so that potentially
> impacted parties may protect their right to a fair
> hearing.  By enacting fees for disproportionate
> deletes you will be impacting certain businesses and
> registrars that have engaged in the domain tasting
> practice.  While I abhor this particular practice, I
> am of the view that the rights of these parties must
> nonetheless be respected.
>
> I would appreciate your thoughts on the matter.
>
> Best regards,
> Danny Younger
>
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