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Re: [governance] [ga] Re: Establishment of the European Regional At-Large Organizaton

  • To: Vittorio Bertola <vb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [governance] [ga] Re: Establishment of the European Regional At-Large Organizaton
  • From: Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 08:11:18 -0800 (PST)
  • Cc: Joop Teernstra <terastra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Vittorio,

To be clear... while you would be representing all
individual members of ISOC Italy - 72 at the moment -
(71 which probably have almost no interest in DNS
issues and 1 who does), you claim this puts you on a
par with another representative who represents 44
individuals (all of whom have a strong interest in DNS
issues).

Wouldn't it make more sense to put you in a room with
these other 44 individuals and have all 45 of you vote
on an equal basis?  Or are you more equal than they
are?

--- Vittorio Bertola <vb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Il giorno lun, 23/01/2006 alle 07.25 -0800, Danny
> Younger ha scritto:
> > So, If your chapter (the accredited at-large
> > structure) is basically just you when it comes to
> > ICANN issues, why do you warrant an equivalency to
> 44
> > other individuals that took the time to sign up
> and
> > pay a fee (while you through your own organization
> pay
> > nothing)?
> 
> If I were the representative of ISOC Italy in the
> EURALO council, I
> would be representing all individual members of ISOC
> Italy - 72 at the
> moment - exactly as the representative of
> individuals would be
> representing 44 other individuals that are directly
> members of the
> EURALO (the ratio varies with the total number of
> members). Actually,
> the representation ratio is averagely more
> favourable if you are an
> individual EURALO member than if you try to be the
> rep of an
> organization, and that's exactly to reward direct
> participation in
> EURALO.
> 
> I expect (reasonably, I think) that most individual
> members of the
> EURALO would just sign up and delegate activity to
> their elected
> representatives, much like (as you point out) most
> individual members of
> ISOC Italy delegate activity in the ICANN field to
> me.
> 
> It's false that I don't pay nothing, I pay 50 euros
> a year as membership
> fee to my organization, which in turn sometimes
> subsidizes my
> participation to IG-related events. In any case, the
> EURALO membership
> fee is expected to be a one-time-only (not yearly)
> very low (10 euros?)
> amount of money, mostly meant to screen out fakes
> and make capture more
> difficult.
> 
> - And, on another matter, just to get your facts
> straight: it is not
> true that you were the only registrant getting angry
> and loud about the
> "Verisign settlement" agreements and, specifically,
> the proposed price
> increase in the .com registry fee. For what regards
> the ALAC, you might
> read the statement we gave in Vancouver:
>
http://alac.icann.org/announcements/announcement-02dec05.htm
> 
> Regards,
> -- 
> vb.             [Vittorio Bertola - v.bertola [a]
> bertola.eu.org]<-----
> http://bertola.eu.org/  <- Prima o poi...
> 
> 


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