Re: [ga] US not only country that restricts access to tlds

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Chris and all former DNSO GA members or other interested stakeholders/users,

Why should ICANN or any other NGO get involved in social
engineering endeavors such as this article you were so kind to
share with us seems to be preoccupied with?  Even WIPO, of
UDRP fame shouldn't even touch this sort of disagreement.

I personally could care less if any country, even my own, should
be overly concerned about nazi.kz or any other similar DN in
any name space.  These sorts of disputes are frivolous in nature
although disgusting in many personal ways depending on the content
of such web sites such DN's provide for.

kidsearch wrote:

> Thought you all might find this interesting.
>
> http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=15919
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Danny Younger" <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "Vint Cerf" <vint@xxxxxxxxxx>; <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 5:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [ga] RE: IDNs & the GNSO New TLD PDP
>
> > Danny and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
> > stakeholders/users,
> >
> > The answer to Danny's questioin is ICANN.
> >
> > Danny Younger wrote:
> >
> > > Vint,
> > >
> > > on the topic of upper bounds for IDN TLDs, if "for the
> > > present the suggested number is one" then I would
> > > think that selection criteria becomes rather important
> > > -- what type of IDN gets selected (and who makes that
> > > selection, the registry operator or ICANN)?.
> > >
> > > I recall the Discussion Paper on Non-ASCII Top-Level
> > > Domain Policy Issues that identified categories of
> > > potential TLD strings based on the semantic meaning of
> > > the string itself:
> > >
> > > 1. Semantic association with Geographic Units
> > > 2. Semantic association with Languages
> > > 3. Semantic association with Cultural Groups or
> > > Ethnicities
> > > 4. Semantic association with Existing Sponsored TLDs
> > > 5. Semantic association with Existing Unsponsored TLDs
> > >
> > > 6. Everything else.
> > >
> > > http://www.icann.org/committees/idn/non-ascii-tld-paper.htm
> > >
> > > Do you recall whether this earlier IDN Committee made
> > > any specific recommendations as to the best way
> > > forward?  Sorry, I couldn't find their follow-up work.
> > >
> > > --- Vint Cerf <vint@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > >  Danny,
> > > >
> > > > I think the IDN matter splits into several parts.
> > > > For gTLDs, IDNs are
> > > > potentially much harder to solve. There might be
> > > > more than one French
> > > > restriction table developed by France, Senegal,
> > > > Canada where potentially
> > > > different dialects of French are spoken. To take
> > > > Canada for example, it
> > > > could conceivably have a single TLD (.CA) and have a
> > > > restriction table for
> > > > French (if one is needed) as it is written in Canada
> > > > for registrations in
> > > > .CA. The restriction table might differ from the one
> > > > developed by France or
> > > > Senegal. A gTLD, such as .info, might have to choose
> > > > among several possible
> > > > tables or develop its own for registrations in
> > > > French.
> > > >
> > > > For ccTLDs, then, it would appear valuable for all
> > > > those ccTLDs who wish to
> > > > accept registrations in a given script and language,
> > > > to work together as the
> > > > Chines, Japanese and Koreans have. They developed a
> > > > common CJK plan.
> > > >
> > > > I did not intend in my earlier remarks to suggest
> > > > that the ccTLD operators
> > > > has to comply with the ICANN contract for gLTDs. I
> > > > only meant that the new
> > > > gTLD process should include provision for non-Roman
> > > > scripts (ie IDNs). I
> > > > agree with you that the ccNSO should take up the
> > > > question of IDNs for
> > > > themselves. I also think that it is important to
> > > > place an upper bound on the
> > > > allowed number of additional TLDs using non-Roman
> > > > scripts. For the present
> > > > the suggested number is one.
> > > >
> > > > This won't quite satisfy all needs since some
> > > > countries have more than one
> > > > official language and many may want registrations in
> > > > other unofficial
> > > > languages that are widely in use. In the US, where
> > > > English is the official
> > > > language, there is a considerable spanish speaking
> > > > population, for example.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402
E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Registered Email addr with the USPS
Contact Number: 214-244-4827