Re: [ga] registration info on domain names

[Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>]

I agree Richard. However my approach has proven over centuries in many developed nations. Legal, certified surrogate agents for sevice of process. You do not get Fords' personal address in order to serve process, you get their legal agents' and they must accept service on their clients behalf and the agent will protect the privacy. About 15 USD per year.
   
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Richard Henderson <richardhenderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  I take the view that individuals should not have to publish their private
addresses simply to gain the right to use strings of numbers. If these
individuals abuse the number strings in some way, then by all means let a
complainant pursue them through the courts. Their private addresses should
be kept as securely as credit card details etc and only released on the
authority of a court of law.

Of course, if people are happy to publish their details, then that is fine
and they can "opt in".

But have you ever been harrassed and stalked by a person with mental
illness?

I have, and it's traumatic for a whole household.

Individuals right to privacy should be protected.

Yrs,

Richard Henderson

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kidsearch" 
To: "Jeff Williams" ; "Hugh Dierker"

Cc: "ga" ; "icann board address" 
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] registration info on domain names


> legal infraction in which country by which laws?
>
> In some countries, it's the government having access to that information
> that is feared most.
>
> Chris McElroy, President,
> Kidsearch Network
> http://www.KidsearchNetwork.org
> http://www.MissingChildrenBlog.com
> http://www.RunawayTeens.org
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff Williams" 
> To: "Hugh Dierker" 
> Cc: "ga" ; "icann board address"

> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 3:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [ga] registration info on domain names
>
>
> > Dr. Dierker and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
> > stakeholders/users,
> >
> > I agree that going after perpetrators or suspected perpetrators and
> > using
> > Whois data as a tool for doing so is prudent. However, ONLY law
> > enforcement should have the direct contact information for Domain Name
> > holders in order to protect the majority of Domain Name registrants from
> >
> > undue harassment and unnecessary legal costs that would and do incur
> > to protect their identity and protect themselves from Identity Theft
> > which
> > is the single largest and most costly civil/common law type or case
> > there
> > is. As one that has suffered ID theft myself,. I can attest to the cost
> > as
> > being horrendous in recovering from such damage ID theft causes.
> >
> > The whois records can be and our members believe strongly should be,
> > secured or made only accessible to law enforcement in the event of
> > a legitimate suspected legal infraction. And even than only when other
> > means of determining if such a complaint that has been filed have all
> > been exhausted.
> >
> > Hugh Dierker wrote:
> >
> > > Times change. I used to be a fervant opposer of information being
> > > required for registering a domain name. Of course back then the
> > > requirement was pushed by IP folks so they could locate and sue
> > > infringers. Well i thought then and still do that it is an invasion of
> > > privacy. However nowadays the rules are used more to track down
> > > renegade spammers, kiddy porn freaks, fraudulent scheme jerks and
> > > terrorists.
> > > Oh you can still be an artful dodger, although it is getting
> > > tougher. And you still should register through a service or proxy.
> > >
> > > But to me that great pendulum which weighs violation of privacy
> > > versus public good seems to have swung a bit toward the side of
> > > registration.
> > >
> > > Therefor I suggest any new tld be required to prove a reasonably
> > > effective manner of identifying registrants. Personally I reccomend
> > > certifiying Agents for Service of Process as most countries do for
> > > corporations.
> > >
> > > e
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
> > Abraham Lincoln
> >
> > "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
> > very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
> >
> > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> > United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> > ===============================================================
> > Updated 1/26/04
> > CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
> > IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.
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> > Contact Number: 214-244-4827
> >
> >
>

  


			
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