Re: [ga] ISOC Captures ALAC

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Danny and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
stakeholders/users,

Your absolutely right in your brief description of what ICANN
considers an At-Large and how it uses it as an insterment of the
ISOC and vise versa yet in no legitimate way does the ALAC
represent even a tiny fraction of the REAL stakeholders/users
and therefor cannot meet the obligation of representation.

What I still cannot understand Danny is why you espouse such
on a forum that is defunct and not directly to the DOC/NTIA?

Danny Younger wrote:

> Richard,
>
> If you've read through the last half dozen Status
> Reports to the DOC, you'll note that the ALAC figures
> prominently in each one of them.  ICANN will not
> forego this fraudulent pretense because it's vital to
> their MOU completion effort.  They have to pretend
> that everything is wonderful, and that things will
> work themselves out over the course of time.
>
> The ALAC is ICANN's answer to their ninth obligation
> under the last MOU amendment:
>
> "Continue to develop, to test, and to implement
> appropriate mechanisms that foster informed
> participation in ICANN by the global Internet
> community, such as providing educational services
> and fostering information sharing for constituents
> and promoting best practices among industry
> segments."
>
> Without that ALAC section in their response, all that
> ICANN can point to is attendance at a few meetings.
> We're being victimized just so that ICANN can play the
> game of appearing to be responsive.
>
> --- Richard Henderson <richardhenderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > Membership of ALAC should be on the basis of
> > individuals, exercising
> > one-person-one-vote, and one-person-one-opinion.
> >
> > This would tend to diminish any concerns about
> > capture, and would also give
> > ALAC back to the people it is supposed to represent:
> >
> > Individuals.
> >
> > It's obvious.
> >
> > Yrs,
> >
> > Richard Henderson
> > www.atlarge.org
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Danny Younger" <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <vint@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <vb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> > <bfausett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 1:27 PM
> > Subject: [ga] ISOC Captures ALAC
> >
> >
> > > Reading through the list of certified At-Large
> > > Structures is almost like reading through the
> > roster
> > > of chapters of the Internet Society.  At this
> > time,
> > > ISOC chapters constitute in excess of 50% of all
> > > certified ALAC organizations (almost 60%).
> > >
> > > Now, don't get me wrong... I happen to like ISOC
> > and I
> > > used to serve on the Board of the New York
> > Chapter,
> > > but I don't like the idea of "capture".
> > >
> > > The authors of the White Paper weren't too keen on
> > the
> > > idea either.
> > >
> > > Obviously, we have a growing problem as more and
> > more
> > > ISOC chapters seek to associate themselves with
> > the
> > > ALAC initiative.  At the moment, the issue is
> > somewhat
> > > dormant as known of these groups (ISOC-related or
> > > otherwise) has offered any public advice to the
> > ALAC
> > > or to the ICANN Board.  But what happens when this
> > > group of entities eventually attains a critical
> > mass
> > > and their synergy starts to impact the advisory
> > > process?
> > >
> > > Capture is not healthy.  It is one of the reasons
> > why
> > > the NCUC prudently restricted membership to
> > primary
> > > organizations and did not allow membership for
> > > individual organizational chapters.
> > >
> > > The Board should deal with this matter.  In my
> > view,
> > > if they really want the steady input afforded by
> > ISOC
> > > chapter views, let them set up an ISOC Supporting
> > > Organization, but let's not pretend that these
> > RALO
> > > wannabes are actually the At-Large.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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