Re: [Ecommerce] Re: [ga] U.S. DOC Won't Let Go of DNS

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Eric and all,

  Well it is not clear but would seem that ICANN's failure to gain
stakeholder/user
support in any self determining "Atlarege" which the ICANN BoD and staff

had promised to engender as an equal part of ICANN's structure was at
least
in part for DOC/NTIA's below referenced announcement.

Hugh Dierker wrote:

>    Acutally here is the last vestige of hope for ICANN as the only
> other saving grace is an atlarge which is a dismal failure.
> It would appear by ommission and acknowledgement by silence that the
> EU and ASIAN and LATIN AM communities are happy with the USDOC running
> the show. (I knew they should not have hired those Aussies and
> Canadians to help run the show ;-).
> e
>
> Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Eric and all,
>
> Indeed ICANN has been a failure given this news in showing it's
> ability to manage the Root. ICANN has also been a failure on several
> other fronts as well. It does not recognize that the stakeholder/user
> is king. However it seems that DOC/NTIA also is falling short on
> that mark, no pun intended, as well...
>
> Hugh Dierker wrote:
>
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > Ya'll must get a grip,
> >
> > REmarks aside this ain't no battle it is a whoopin.
> >
> > ICANN has failed. (don't blame me, i applied for posts in Aruba). It
> has shown a lack of even a lack of caring. They do not play well where
> either side of the isle (and i mean that by English and D & R,
> congress style) can help them.
> >
> > But we in the biz or acedemia muddle on and make a mil here or
> there. And no one cares about ICANN. And certainly Dr. Froomkin is all
> the wealtherier for it.
> >
> > e
> >
> > Weakness is a sign. And these men and women are weak. I use them as
> examples of failure.
> >
> > Jeff Williams wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > Despite Fromkins and Twomey's remarks, as I read between
> > the lines of this article as well as have followed ICANN closely
> > sense it's ill begotten conception and beginnings, ICANN evidently
> > cannot be trusted with the security of the DNS and root zone
> > file well enough for it such to be turned over to ICANN exclusively.
>
> > In other words, ICANN still needs allot of baby-sitting...
> >
> > See: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1833928,00.asp
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders
> strong!)
> > "Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
> > Pierre Abelard
> >
> > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> > United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> > ===============================================================
> > Updated 1/26/04
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> Regards,
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
>
> "Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
> Pierre Abelard
>
> "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> ===============================================================
> Updated 1/26/04
> CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
> IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.
> E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Registered Email addr with the USPS
> Contact Number: 214-244-4827
>

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
    Pierre Abelard

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Registered Email addr with the USPS
Contact Number: 214-244-4827