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Re: [ga] Escrow Concerns
- To: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [ga] Escrow Concerns
- From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 23:39:36 -0800
- Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, mike@xxxxxxxxxx, icann board address <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>, Kathy Smith <KSMITH@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Organization: INEGroup Spokesman
- References: <20050304042731.40212.qmail@web52905.mail.yahoo.com>
- Sender: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Eric and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
stakeholders/users,
Registrars/Registries are not voluntarily going to archive/escrow data
unless there is a profit in it for them. ICANN will not enforce it's
own
rules as it has no mandate or means by which to do so. Karl full well
knows this. So you most of the participants if the truth be known
and/or admitted.
So let's not spew out a bunch of flatulence. ICANN needs as do the
registrars/registries, regulation that has teeth but is yet simple and
straight forward.
Hugh Dierker wrote:
> Step back Jack and look,
>
> Sometimes it is well to attack the personage of the message. Other
> times it is good to evaluate the behavior of the messenger. And
> sometimes it is appropriate to stand back and praise a good man for
> good work.
>
> What does Karl have to gain here? Nada, nothing. Yet he cares without
> ego.
> So I trust his wisdom and support his well reasoned suggestion.
>
> Archiving and preservation is best done without mandate and
> regulation, but with synergism of modalities. It is a common good that
> does no harm and should be adaptable to industry standard adopted and
> not thrust upon us. As with renovation and allocation it should simply
> be done and not debated.
>
> However we all have a say in how it should be done ;-}
>
> Eric
>
> Karl Auerbach <karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Danny Younger wrote:
>
> > I'd like switch the discussion away from ICANN politics for a moment
> to
> > raise an at-large issue that has been on my mind for some time: the
> > risk My thanks to Joop and to Bill Nichols for the timely reminder
> to
> > avoid flaming on this list. to registrants posed by the failure of
> > registrars to escrow data.
>
> The status from when I was on the board was this:
>
> - Some inadequate formats had been defined.
> - Nobody had bothered to put 'em into play.
>
> The real issue is preservation of registry/registrar business records,
> in
> particular the records needed to reconstruct the registry/registrar.
>
> This can be handled by escrow ... or by other mechanisms that I
> believe
> will do the same job with less pain to all concerned and with less
> intrusive regulation.
>
> The mechanism I tend to prefer is to leave the job up to each
> registry/registrar and have them deliver to ICANN (and to publish to
> the
> community) a yearly statement from an independent auditor (one with
> appropriate expertise) to the effect that the registry/registrar
> engages
> in business asset protection policies that are adequate to the
> reconstruction of the operations after a disaster or financial failure
> by
> the registry/registrar or a sucessor.
>
> This audit letter would have to specify not only that are the assets
> protected by adequate practices but also that there is a sufficient
> body
> of documentation and tools, all of which need to be held by a known
> third
> party, to recover using no other specialized knowledge, tools, or
> special
> hardware (e.g. weirdball tape drives.)
>
> This mechanism takes ICANN out of the preservation loop, allows
> registries/registrars to tailor the preservation practices to their
> own
> needs, allows those practices to evolve (and improve) over time, and
> let's
> the public know who is doing well in this regard and who is not.
>
> --karl--
>
>
>
Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
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