Re: [ga] A Call for Resignations

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Eric and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
stakeholders/users,

 Our members do speak for themselves when and where they can and wish
to.  Many have been censored or thwarted in other various and deceiving
ways.  However as I am the elected spokesman for our members whom
speak with one voice, I have and am so honored to do so and humbled
by our members staunch support.  As such, I try to speak where and
when I can in their behalf and at our members behest in doing so...

Hugh Dierker wrote:

>    Maybe it is too bad that some people get labeled with things like
> "always being pessimistic". It goes hand in hand with people who
> constantly say "I told you so" but never try or accomplish anything
> themselves. And I have noticed the same folks that get labeled like
> that usually claim to have some big deal that never seems to
> materialize like one hundred thousand plus that never speak for
> themselves.
>
> Danny and Sotiris are doing something positive and while they should
> hear their critics, they should not be deterred. Blessings be upon
> those who seek to build and not just destroy. May their voices be
> strong and be heard by those needing such a voice.
>
> Eric
>
> Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Danny and all former DNSO GA members or other stakeholders/users,
>
> Danny, your only about a year and a half behind the curve. I have
> along with our members been saying that the ALAC never was
> legitimate. It was the brain child of Esther Dyson and denise michel
> and as such when the old ALOC was attempted and also failed
> as did the atlarge.com as did Jupes faulty effort at forming an
> at large stakeholders/users organization as they all only wanted
> certain people to be "Allowed" to be members, much like a
> Club with very restrictive membership rules...
>
> Hence Danny, you do not speak for any majority of stakeholder/users,
> nor are you likely ever to be able to for many and varied reasons
> which
> have already been voluminously articulated by many DNSO GA
> participants
> over a fairly lengthy period of time..
>
> Danny Younger wrote:
>
> > Dear members of the At-Large Advisory Committee:
> >
> > This request has been sent to each of you personally with copies
> > forwarded to each member of the ICANN Board, to the At-Large Forum,
> to
> > committee[at] alac.icann.org, to the ICANN Ombudsman, to the
> At-Large
> > Executive Director, to the General Assembly discussion list, to the
> > GNSO ALAC Liaison, to the GAC ALAC Liaison, to the Chair of the GNSO
>
> > Council, to the Chair of the ccNSO Council and to the ICANN
> > Vice-President for Policy Development Support.
> >
> > I would like to begin by thanking Thomas Roessler and Esther Dyson
> for
> > their service on the At-Large Advisory Committee and applaud their
> > decision to resign in order to better pursue other endeavors. I now
> > call upon the remaining members of the At-Large Advisory Committee
> to
> > tender their resignations.
> >
> > This is a vote of no confidence. I believe that I speak for the
> > At-Large community when I say that your service is no longer
> desired.
> >
> > The At-Large respects the concept of transparency; you do not. No
> > minutes of any of your meetings have ever been posted. No MP3
> > recordings of any of your teleconferences have ever been provided.
> No
> > record of any committee vote has ever been published. At a time when
>
> > the world expects the entities responsible for the management of the
>
> > domain name system to be transparent, you have chosen to operate in
> > secret. It would be honorable for you to resign.
> >
> > The At-Large believes in the exchange of dialogue with all parties
> in
> > the ICANN deliberative process; you do not. Messages have been sent
> > to you, through the ALAC forum, through your commitee e-mail
> address,
> > through the General Assembly discussion list, and to each of you
> > individually. You have chosen not to respond to the concerns and
> > criticisms put forth by individual members of the At-Large
> community.
> > It would be honorable for you to resign.
> >
> > The At-Large continues to advocate for the representation that was
> > promised to us on the ICANN Board; you do not. The ALAC has never
> > once raised the primary issue that is central to the At-Large
> > Community. Representation is one of the four pillars of the White
> > Paper. The At-Large cannot abide by your ongoing efforts to
> > substitute "participation" for the "representation" that is our due.
>
> > It would be honorable for you to resign.
> >
> > The At-Large Study Committee found consensus for the formation of a
> > Supporting Organization for the At-Large. The At-Large supports the
> > concept of an SO within which our interest can manifest; you do not.
>
> > The ALAC has never once discussed the establishment of a Supporting
> > Organization for the At-Large that elects directors to the ICANN
> > Board. The At-Large cannot stand idly by while our interests are
> > being ignored. It would be honorable for you to resign.
> >
> > The At-Large understands its composition as individuals and
> > organizations not otherwise represented by ICANN's Supporting
> > Organizations; you do not. The ALAC now seeks to speak on behalf of
> > Civil Society, a collectivity that is already represented by way of
> > ICANN's Non-Commercial Constituency, instead of honoring its mandate
>
> > to reflect the interests of the unrepresented in the ICANN process.
> > The At-Large does not support the perversion of the ALAC mandate to
> > the detriment of the real At-Large community. It would be honorable
> > for you to resign.
> >
> > The At-Large rejects the folly of fragmentation into regional
> > entities; you do not. No other constituency in the ICANN process is
> > being forced to subdivide into regional groups. We do not have an
> > Asia/Pacific Business Constituency unit, nor a Latin-American, nor
> > North-American, nor European nor African required subset of the
> > Business Community as a prerequisite to formal participation as a
> > constituent element within the ICANN process. The ALAC's dogmatic
> > pursuit of an unsustainable construct demonstrates that you are
> unfit
> > to serve the needs of the At-Large community. It would be honorable
> > for you to resign.
> >
> > The At-Large understands that you were required by the ICANN Board
> to
> > offer "Internet-based mechanisms that enable discussions among
> members
> > of At-Large structures"; you do not. The ALAC has failed to set up
> > even one single mechanism for At-Large discussions. Discussions are
> > that which occur between parties; it is not exemplified by a
> mechanism
> > that only allows you to throw a brick-with-a-note over the fence
> into
> > a forum. The ALAC's failure to provide internet-based discussion
> > mechanisms is not only a breach of the ICANN bylaws, it is an insult
>
> > to the At-Large on whose behalf you purportedly act. It would be
> > honorable for you to resign.
> >
> > The At-Large community has noted time and time again the failure of
> > ICANN to post the minutes of its Board meetings; you have not. The
> > ALAC has never sent a statement to the Board condemning such blatant
>
> > disregard for transparency and has never acted on behalf of the
> > At-Large to ensure that bylaws are being followed. When bylaws
> aren't
> > being followed, when PDP status pages are never posted, when Issue
> > Reports are not generated as per bylaws guidelines, when PDP Public
> > Commment periods fail to materialize, this affects the At-Large that
>
> > is denied the opportunity to effectively contribute to policy
> > deliberations. The ALAC has done nothing to promote the interests of
>
> > the At-Large as contributors in the ICANN process; we remain shut
> out
> > of all deliberations. It would be honorable for you to resign.
> >
> > The At-Large recognizes that the nineteen certified At-Large
> > "structures" have contributed absolutely nothing to discussions
> > pertaining to the domain name system; you do not. The ALAC continues
>
> > to point to an ongoing certification process of at-large
> "structures"
> > as a barometer of success; we regard it as a tacit demonstration of
> > failure as no tangible benefits have accrued from this process and
> > there has been no demonstrated interest in forming even one single
> > regional at-large organization. If you haven't yet gotten the
> > message, allow me to repeat it one last time -- it would be
> honorable
> > for you to resign.
> >
> > There are others that can provide advice to the ICANN Board
> regarding
> > the needs and interest of the At-Large. While the ALAC has no
> defined
> > term limits, it is clear to us that you have had your turn and
> sadly,
> > your performance has not adequately served the needs of the
> At-Large;
> > please step aside and let others get the job done.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Danny Younger
> >
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
>
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>
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> United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
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Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
    Pierre Abelard

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Registered Email addr with the USPS
Contact Number: 214-244-4827