Re: [ga] VeriSign to auction deleting domains!

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Richard and all former DNSO GA members or other interested stakeholders/users,

  First of all Richard, "Registries" don't "Supply" domain names, "Registrars"
do.  This is how ICANN's system is supposed work, even though I and
many of our members were such a separation.  Hence "Registries" should
not be able to sell Domain names except through their affiliated but
separate entity "Registrars" licensed/contracted to do so...

  The bid process is bad anyway as selling expired or any domain name
that has already been registered originally if it becomes expired via
a bid process as you suggest will only encourage further cheating
by the "Registry" in your proposal or in fact the "Registrars" as some
if not many chasing a buck will seek to "prematurely expire" Domain
names in the hope of selling them again via your bid idea at a much
higher price than the original registration price, thereby artificially
inflating the cost to the registrant and especially to any future
first time registrant.

Richard Henderson wrote:

> I'm not too fussed about the buxomy beauties (there are enough of those
> around) I would prefer us to remember that the Internet and DNS do not exist
> for the sake of giving registrars or Pool.com an income of any kind.
>
> The Internet exists so that millions of ordinary users can communicate,
> trade, build sites, promote their charitable causes (including the worthy
> Kirikos Fund) and therefore:
>
> The supply of domain names should be Simple, Clear, and Easy to Use.
>
> A registry administers the supply of domain names already. I can't see for
> the life of me why it can't just sell deleting domains as well. If the
> previous registrant doesn't want the domain name any longer, what's the
> problem?
>
> If I want to buy the domain
> www.62984673s9f64k£he3_hekjdykirikosforpresidentoficannblablazero.com then
> it's fine for the Registry to distribute it for me.
>
> If I want to buy a deleting domain www.money.com because the previous
> registrant went bankrupt, surely it's fine for the Registry to distribute
> THAT domain for me too. And if I cut out the middle man and some obscure
> shell-registrar who I have no knowledge of then all well and good.
>
> Keep it Simple Stupid, I think.
>
> These domains are deleting.
> These domains are therefore up for auction.
> I bid the highest for these domains.
> Therefore I get them.
>
> That system seems to work.
>
> You and I both know that if you try to register a deleting domain manually,
> the chances of getting that domain are minimal and probably 5000-1. Before
> you know it, Buy Domains or someone else has got the name half a second
> after it dropped, via some obscure shell registrar.
>
> You call that system good?
>
> I'd prefer one simple clearcut market where if I want a certain domain I can
> bid my best price for it, and nothing is left to a lottery.
>
> Yrs,
>
> Richard H
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Kirikos" <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "George Kirikos" <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 7:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [ga] VeriSign to auction deleting domains!
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > --- Richard Henderson <richardhenderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > I have already proposed this Registry Auction model, as I set it out
> > > here
> >
> > The VeriSign proposal is no different than the "Let's make George
> > Kirikos a Multi-millionaire proposal" that I put forward three years
> > ago:
> >
> > http://www.opensrs.org/archives/discuss-list/0201/0339.html
> >
> > I trust ICANN and others will give VeriSign's proposal the same
> > consideration that my "proposal" got. ;)
> >
> > Eagerly waiting to see if "buxomy beauties in tiny bikinis" have a
> > voice at ICANN....
> >
> > George Kirikos
> > http://www.kirikos.com/

Regards,

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