[ga] Re: [Politech] ITU's Richard Hill on ICANN's $.75 fee and Net governance

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Declan, Ricahard and all,

  Nice try to deflect here Richard.  What you seem to fail to mention is that
not any or all stakeholders have equal status or can vote on issues in
the ITU and the ITU charges for access to many/most of it's public
interests documents on it's web site....  Pot-Kettle black if you ask me...

Declan McCullagh wrote:

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: ICANN partying like it's 1999
> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 18:20:35 +0100
> From: <richard.hill@xxxxxxx>
> To: <declan@xxxxxxxx>
>
> Declan,
>
> With reference to your article
>
> >
> > http://news.com.com/ICANN+partying+like+its+1999/2010-1071_3-5495758.html
> >
> > ICANN partying like it's 1999
> > December 20, 2004, 4:00 AM PT
> > By Declan McCullagh
> >
>
> Here are some comments that you may, if you wish, post publicly.
>
> As you know, ITU does not charge a per-number fee for administering
> E.164, E.212 and/or Q.708 naming and numbering resources.
>
> Nor do most national regulators (although practices vary nationally).
>
> But I don't know whether that is relevant or not.
>
> For interest, the American Heritage dictionary gives the following as
> its second definition of tax:  "a fee or due levied on the members of an
> organization to meet its expenses"
>
> Separately, I note that you state "some inchoate process involving the
> United Nations' International Telecommunications Union."
>
> My dictionary defines inchoate as "1. In an initial or early stage; just
> beginning; incipient. 2. Immature, imperfect".  Now the ITU is surely
> not perfect, but its processes are surely neither immature, nor just
> beginning, nor at an initial or early stage.
>
> On the contrary, as most people recognize, the ITU's processes are
> stable and predictable.  And work well for many topics.
>
> Also, the ITU's processes and procedures for substantive matters are
> independent of those of the UN, and ITU's work program, priorities, etc.
> are determined by ITU's membership using ITU's own processes.  On the
> other hand, salary scales and certain staff regulations are common to
> the entire UN system.
>
> Best,
> Richard
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Richard Hill
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