Re: [ga] ISOC Italy At-Large Structure application

["J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin" <jefsey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Vittorio,
Could I make a suggestion? I am sure many people are like me: disapointed 
with some of the ALAC people at some stage of the process, interersted in 
what other may do and confused about what the ALAC, RALO etc can be.

Why not to remember us in a few lines (Roberto kindly send me some info I 
aksed but I see I could do with more):

1. what is ALAC
2. where is the site
3. who is in there - how to contct them collecively
4. where they com from
5. what they intent - are supposed to do - would like to achieve
6. what are the next planned stages
7. what has been donne
8. some FAQ : you had objections enough to know about them and your responses.

Then do as Joanna did for a while ofr her rules: add to your signature the 
URL where you would also keep this posted. We will go no where in having 
@larges split and resplit. Some of us dislkies some others, some times for 
good reasons. But this is life. This does not change we represent users. Or 
it is because we represent users - o have different opinions.

thank you for the help.
jfc



At 11:28 13/09/03, Vittorio Bertola wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 10:39:15 EDT, DannyYounger@xxxxxx wrote:
>
> >Vittorio,
> >
> >I read (with some amusement) the application you submitted on behalf of 
> ISOC
> >Italy to become an At-Large structure and availed myself of the 
> opportunity to
> >examine your ISOC website.  I expected to find at least some nominal
> >commentary on the part of your members regarding this At-Large 
> application, but alas,
> >there appeared to be none.  I also found no discussion on this subject 
> in your
> >public forum -- even worse, the archives of your "Internet Governance, 
> ICANN
> >at-large membership" working group archives contain only spam messages 
> going
> >back the last six months.
> >
> >Frankly, I find it hard to believe that any of your members (other than
> >yourself) have any particular interest in submitting this At-Large 
> structure
> >application.
>
> Danny,
>
> the latest developments in ICANN At Large were presented and discussed
> at our last annual Assembly in May. After that, the matter was
> forwarded directly to the Council, which is is the elective body that
> manages the ordinary life of the organization. The Council has
> discussed the matter and has delegated me to prepare and submit the
> application. The working group lists are not in use at this time, as
> we are rethinking at the concept and number of our working groups. Our
> website could certainly be better or more frequently updated than it
> is now, but we are a small voluntary association and we do what we can
> (may I point out that your own At Large related website,
> http://naralo.info/, still has an incorrect list of ALAC members, and
> the latest news were posted on January 28?).
>
> So thanks for your suggestions, but if you're not happy with the way
> Societa' Internet operates, I think you should subscribe to it and
> propose something different.
>
> >Why are you promoting this farce?
>
> You could contribute to it with a number of constructive actions - for
> example, getting your ISOC chapter accredited, or starting up real
> discussions on a North American RALO; there are plenty of things still
> to build, so you have lots of room to influence the final outcome.
>
> Personally, I am not 100% happy with the way the ALAC was finally
> designed in ICANN Reform, nor with the way the ALAC works now - for
> example, we have succeeded in releasing a number of comments and
> policy documents that were appreciated by many, and in setting up an
> accreditation mechanism in reasonable time; but we have significant
> funding problems that prevent our outreach and our policy actions from
> being more effective. We need help, and though I am sure that many,
> from different groups of interest, would like us to fail, I still
> think that a workable worldwide coordination point would be a
> significant advance for the cause of individual Internet users. But we
> need support.
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