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[ga] Re: The Biggest Hoaxes In Wikipedia's First Decade
- To: Eric Dierker <ericdierker@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: [ga] Re: The Biggest Hoaxes In Wikipedia's First Decade
- From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:47:33 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
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<P>Eric and all,</P>
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<P> Misinformation CAN be useful yes if it is obvious that it is
such. If it is not than the reader or listener</P>
<P>can be taken in by such as if it were gospel. That is detrimental, and
as with Wikipedia on occasion</P>
<P>with it's many [ far too many ] hoaxes it has been significantly harmful to
the frequent users of Wikipedia.</P>
<P> </P>
<P> Truth as in accurate information, is indeed in this specific context
I am providing, evolves to be sure.</P>
<P>In your stated context, no that is not truth, just potentially, if not
likely harmful misinformation, or a untruth.</P>
<P>So indeed wikipedia is 'evolving' as it were however slowly. As such
double or triple checking it's</P>
<P>many refrences to information is a very advisable if not necessary endevor
for the time being. </P>
<P> </P>
<P> One better source for 'Original source' information' MIGHT be <A
href="http://www.loc.gov/index.html";>http://www.loc.gov/index.html</A><BR><BR><BR></P>
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MARGIN-LEFT: 0px">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Eric Dierker
<ERICDIERKER@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Jan 16, 2011 1:58 PM <BR>To: "Jeffrey A.
Williams" <JWKCKID1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>Cc: lauren@xxxxxxxx,
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<DIV>Dearest Jeff,</DIV>
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<DIV>You mental pigmy ;-) Misinformation is very useful, both intentional
and unintentional. In many cases it is a reflection of the ignorance of the
masses, in other cases we can gauge reaction and thereby learn a great deal.
Also it is good to evaluate misinformation and determine the why and the effect
and affect. Also it often tells us much about the author and/or publisher.</DIV>
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<DIV>Hence my referrel to Galleleo and Columbus -- labeled wrong, stupid and
full of misinformation regarding the heavenly bodies and the flatness of our
earth,, to be sure heretics -- So truth is an evolving thing, misinformation
often brings us closer to a more advanced understanding.<BR></DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Jeffrey A. Williams
<jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT:
bold">To:</SPAN></B> Eric Dierker <ericdierker@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B>
lauren@xxxxxxxx; lmcknigh@xxxxxxx; ehale2@xxxxxxx;
lehto.paul@xxxxxxxxx<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
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<P>Eric and all,</P>
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<P> Misinformation is neither useful information, Entertainment by
intent, nor imparts knowledge.</P>
<P>It is what it is, misinformation and/or minutiae. That was my
point. So now you have been "Properly" </P>
<P>informed/educated accordingly.</P>
<P> </P>
<P> </P>
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MARGIN-LEFT: 0px">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Eric Dierker <BR>Sent:
Jan 15, 2011 9:26 PM <BR>To: "Jeffrey A. Williams" , ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>Cc:
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<DIV>The point is to get you to differentiate between - Information,
Entertainment, and Knowledge. And information good or bad is still information
and Entertainment can be informational. Hoaxes, myths and rumors are
information and quite often entertaining. Knowledge can come from anywhere,
that is up to the recipient of the information or entertainment. One of the
best examples are agendized schools -- the "education" is more marketing than
knowledge but clearly informational and often entertainment. The information
can impart knowledge or not -- up to the student.</DIV>
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<DIV>Wili puts information out there -- what people do with it is their own
damn business -- but do not shoot the messenger.</DIV>
<DIV>Marketing is education and education is marketing<BR><BR></DIV></DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Jeffrey A. Williams
<jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT:
bold">To:</SPAN></B> Eric Dierker <ericdierker@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B>
lauren@xxxxxxxx; lmcknigh@xxxxxxx; ehale2@xxxxxxx;
lehto.paul@xxxxxxxxx<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Sat, January 15, 2011 2:09:13 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT:
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<P>Eric and all,</P>
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<P> I love Jimmy Wales, but he is NO Columbus or Galleleo to be
sure. I admire Jimmy's</P>
<P>tenacity and vision with Wikipedia, but given some of hoaxes that have been
expounded</P>
<P>there and remain perpetrated there, it leaves me wanting for better, which
Jimmy will eventually </P>
<P>achieve some day, just not today or likely in the near term. We
should all prefer, if not demand</P>
<P>'Original Documentation' instead of the revisionist sort, should we
not? Gotta love editors </P>
<P>though eh? >;) So be sure to cross check those wikipedia
references every time!</P>
<P> </P>
<P> Gods speed and grace Jimmy!</P>
<P> </P>
<P>Kindest Regards,<BR><BR>Jeffrey A. Williams<BR>"Obedience of the law is the
greatest freedom" -<BR> Abraham Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit should go
with the performance of duty and not with what is very<BR>often the accident of
glory" - Theodore Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the probability be called P; the injury,
L; and the burden, B; liability<BR>depends upon whether B is less than L
multiplied by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."<BR>United States v.
Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir.
1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated
1/26/04<BR>IT/network security Eng. SR. Eng. Network data
security,<BR>IT/information and web security.<BR>ABA member in good standing
member ID 01257402 <BR>E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Phone:
214-244-4827<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></P>
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<DIV>Very funny. Seems like very similar complaints as to those about
Columbus and Galleleo<BR></DIV>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Jeffrey A. Williams
<jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT:
bold">To:</SPAN></B> ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ericdierker@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> lauren@xxxxxxxx; lmcknigh@xxxxxxx;
ehale2@xxxxxxx; lehto.paul@xxxxxxxxx<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT:
bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sat, January 15, 2011 9:08:09 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> The Biggest Hoaxes In Wikipedia's
First Decade<BR></FONT><BR>All,<BR><BR> This yet again demonstrates why
Wikipedia as a definitive<BR>reference should not be considered so. None
the less it does<BR>have 'some' accurate and creditable reference information
and<BR>is on the improvement track. <BR>See:<BR>"Wikipedia will celebrate
its 10th birthday on Saturday,<BR>with founder Jimmy Wales having built the
site from nothing to one of the<BR>most influential destinations on the
Internet. Wikipedia's goal may be to<BR>compile the sum total of all human
knowledge, but it's also,
perhaps,<BR>http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/011411-wikipedia-hoaxes.html?hpg1=bn<BR>the
best tool in existence for perpetuating Internet hoaxes. Top<BR>hoaxes include
a student who fooled the entire world's media with a fake<BR>obituary quote,
Rush Limbaugh spouting inaccurate facts lifted from<BR>Wikipedia, the incorrect
declaration of Sinbad's death, Stephen Colbert's<BR>African elephant prank,
Hitler posters on the bedroom wall of a teenage<BR>Tony Blair, and several fake
historical figures invented out of thin air.<BR>Wales has taken steps to head
off vandalism including preventing<BR>unregistered editors from creating new
pages and temporarily protecting<BR>controversial articles, but Wikipedia's
very nature makes it susceptible<BR>to the hoaxes described in this story."<BR>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>Kindest Regards,<BR><BR>Jeffrey
A. Williams<BR>"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -<BR>
Abraham Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not
with what is very<BR>often the accident of glory" - Theodore
Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the
burden, B; liability<BR>depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied
by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."<BR>United States v. Carroll
Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir.
1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated
1/26/04<BR>IT/network security Eng. SR. Eng. Network data
security,<BR>IT/information and web security.<BR>ABA member in good standing
member ID 01257402 <BR>E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Phone:
214-244-4827<BR><BR></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>
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