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Re: [ga] Judge Permanently Stops Operation of Phony Domain Name Registrar

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  • Subject: Re: [ga] Judge Permanently Stops Operation of Phony Domain Name Registrar
  • From: "Gregg L. DesElms" <gregg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:51:33 -0700


Jefferey A. Williams wrote:

   > Greg et., al.,
   >
   >  I do apologize for not spell checking my response before
   > sending, which I usually do.  None the less deciphering
   > same should not have been much of a problem for anyone with
   > higher than a 5th grade education.  So sorry your education
   > level didn't allow for you to do so successfully as well. >;)
   >

GREGG DesELMS's REPLY:

Oh, yeah... THAT's the problem. <sarcasm>That's, for SURE, how everyone reading this exchange between us will interpret it.</sarcasm>

[sigh] Oy.

And, by the way, it's "Gregg:" Three G's, not in a row. Or may I call you "Geoff."

And it's "et al," not "et., al.,"

And it's "nonetheless," not "none the less."

Hmm. That class of persons you just mentioned... you know... the ones with at least a 5th grade education... you're ... like... actually IN that class... right?

So, then... now that you've so succinctly shown that the best retort you've got is an immature insult rather than an adult-like addressing of the actual issues, how 'bout you answer the question you think you've so deftly dodged, to wit:

   Precisely when has eNom ever done anything
   even remotely resembling what the egregious
   Canadian company did, as described in the
   articles to which you referred/linked us?

   Hmm?  When?

Is there at least a CHANCE that, you're having so casually (and irresponsibly) tossed-out that eNom is an offender on par with the aforementioned Canadian company, you'll actually back it up with... oh... I dunno... EVIDENCE? Is that too much to ask?

I'll not hold my breath, of course... but is there at least a SMALL chance? Or are you just going to continue to be reckless in what you write here?



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-----Original Message-----
From: "Gregg L. DesElms" <gregg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Aug 12, 2010 9:05 PM
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ga] Judge Permanently Stops Operation of Phony Domain Name Registrar


Jefferey A. Williams wrote:

   "Reads allot [sic] like a GoDaddy, [W]ild [W]est
   Domains[,] or eNom operation to me..."


TO WHICH GREGG DesELMS NOW REPLIES:  You know, I get thse [ga] list
postings every day, and most days I just roll my eyes at the ceiling, and shake my head with a little grin, at some of the silliness in them. Don't
get me wrong:  Some SERIOUSLY interesting debates over truly substantive
issues have been had here, and I DO enjoy those (but rarely post anything
or participate, other than being a loyal reader).

But when I read a posting like Mr. Williams's, here, I just can't contain
myself.  So, to it, I now respond:

   First of all, Mr. Williams, it's "a lot."  Two words, one "l".
   The word "allot" is a verb which means "to give out,
   distribute; ration; set aside for a special purpose," as
   in "I will allot this amount from my winnings to my son's
   college fund."  Its past tense and past participle is "al-
   lotted," and its present participle is "allotting."  Beyond
   that, as for what I put in [brackets] in my quoting of Mr.
   Williams's words, above:  Res ipsa loquitur.

   Second of all, though I'll believe almost anything about
   GoDaddy's bad business practices (I remember when
   its founder was hawking church software in the '80s,
   and his business practices were questionable then,
   too); I'm incredulous about your including eNom in
   your derision.  I'm as unhappy as anyone else about
   the changes at eNom since 2006 (and even ramping
   up to 2006).  But precisely when has eNom ever done
   anything even remotely similar to what this Canadian
   scamming operation has done?  Hmm?  When?

   Would it be too much to ask that as you bring us your
   genuinely interesting news tidbits, you could bother to
   do it in a way that's truthful and has a little bit of honor
   about it?  I mean... you know... just a little?

   It's no wonder, then, I guess, that the inspirational quo-
   tations in Mr. Williams's signature don't include any-
   thing about integrity.  Surprise, surprise.


   _____________________________
   Gregg L. DesElms
   895 Jackson St., #319
   Napa  CA  94559-1321

   1-877-383-5148 (toll-free voice)
   (206) 984-1288 (fax)

   gregg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

   www.tinyurl.com/deselms-card






----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:02 PM
Subject: [ga] Judge Permanently Stops Operation of Phony Domain Name
Registrar



All,

 Reads allot like a GoDaddy, wild west Domains
or eNom operation to me...

See:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9180461/FTC_halts_domain_name_registration_scam?taxonomyId=17
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/09/domain_registration_scam/
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2010/08/ils.shtm

August 9, 2010)
A US District Court Judge has permanently halted operations of a
Canadian company that allegedly sent phony invoices to US individuals
and businesses implying that they owed the Canadian company money
to register their domain names.  The invoice recipients were led to
believe that they would lose their web addresses if they did not pay.
The company also suggested that its services would include search
engine optimization, which would send more traffic to their sites.
Judge Robert Dow Jr. acted on a complaint from the US Federal Trade
Commission (FTC) against Toronto-based Internet Listing Service.
The company allegedly collected more than US $4.26 million in fees.


Regards,

Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 294k members/stakeholders and growing, strong!)
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