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Re: [ga] Technical Management?? Spam, phishing and viruses??
- To: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [ga] Technical Management?? Spam, phishing and viruses??
- From: "John Palmer" <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 17:51:23 -0500
The TLDA is a Georgia Corporation at this time. Karl Peters set this up.
We are still incorporated in GA.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeffrey A. Williams
To: John Palmer ; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] Technical Management?? Spam, phishing and viruses??
John and all,
I would be happy to help but I don't work for free. Who's going to pay me
how much
for my assistance and what kind of assistance would the TLDA desire from me or
anyone willing to help? To expect free help in todays global economic
situation isn't
reasonable. On the other hand gaining seed money for such after 2008 is
extreamly
difficult if not almost impossible. That's just reality, however unfortunate.
This said, I have always been as supportive of the TLDA as I can be and too
the
extent I could given I recieved no compensation for same and still believe in
the
very basic concept of the TLDA. However as I stated above, I am willing to do
only so much for free. Any more than what I have tried to do will require
mutually
agreeable contracted compensation accordingly. As far as I know now, the TLDA
has no financing or the ability to gain a reliable capital source or sources.
P.S. At one point some time ago I offered to help get the TLDA some funding
as long as I was not responsible for the management of that funding once
contractually secured and deposited in a account for use and or disbursment.
That offer was at that time rejected. Go fish!? At that time to my knowledge
the TLDA wasn't even regestered as any sort of official corporate entity, not
even a 501 (c3). Has that changed or been effected?
-----Original Message-----
From: John Palmer
Sent: Jun 9, 2010 12:32 PM
Poli tical is nonsense. ahoo.com href="mailto:hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx";>Hugh
Dierker
To: Accountability Headquarters
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:29 AM
Subject: [ga] Technical Management?? Spam, phishing and viruses??
Two different concepts that you have to understand here. There
is management via technicalities and technical management. Then there are other
issues -- management of technology and the technology of management.
How to make parts interact can be technical or social. Depends
on the parts. Human parts have one very varied set of principals, some machine
parts have very "on off" simplicity. The marketing of a political answer to a
legal quandry regarding internet privacy is quite technical and requires a
complex application of soft science in the areas of anthropology and social
justice. So trying to make a clean seperation between technical and Poli tical
is nonsense.
My humor was that ICANN in its' own in house process uses the
failure to apply technology as an excuse to avoid efficiency which would be
contrary to the bureaucracy they have built up to justify and obscure their
actions. If this list were allowed or was run efficiently we would be dangerous
to the status quo. So matters like banning people, accuracy in post archiving
and anti-spam and virus a Poli tical is nonsense. ahoo.com
href="mailto:hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx";>Hugh Dierker
To: Accountability Headquarters
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:29 AM
Subject: [ga] Technical Management?? Spam, phishing and viruses??
Two different concepts that you have to understand here. There
is management via technicalities and technical management. Then there are other
issues -- management of technology and the technology of management.
How to make parts interact can be technical or social. Depends
on the parts. Human parts have one very varied set of principals, some machine
parts have very "on off" simplicity. The marketing of a political answer to a
legal quandry regarding internet privacy is quite technical and requires a
complex application of soft science in the areas of anthropology and social
justice. So trying to make a clean seperation between technical and Poli tical
is nonsense.
My humor was that ICANN in its' own in house process uses the
failure to apply technology as an excuse to avoid efficiency which would be
contrary to the bureaucracy they have built up to justify and obscure their
actions. If this list were allowed or was run efficiently we would be dangerous
to the status quo. So matters like banning people, accuracy in post archiving
and anti-spam and virus are to be kept innocuous and unaccontable in the
political model that is ICANN.
As to Palmer's comments -- again he revels in a victory through
silencing criticism as opposed to honest discourse and transparency in
activity. Generally the sign of fear and lack of confidence in the correctness
in ones' actions. But he is a good reminder that ICANN is getting it done
where the TLDA is/was failure because of even worse forsight and more lack of
human understanding.
--- On Tue, 6/8/10, John Palmer
<jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re:
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 3:59 PM
No need to worry - I contacted a responsible party at ICANN
and
the miscreant has been removed from the list.
You can all go back to your regularily scheduled discussions,
none
of which have advanced the cause of domain name owners in all
the years that I have been here.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeffrey A. Williams
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] Re:
Hugo and all,
No my experiance regarding Eric is he prefers technical
management via some
sort of politics. I on the other hand believe that such a
practice almost always
ends up being folly and results in a poor solution or more
likely an unworkable one.
There are no political solutions to technical problems,
only technical solutions....
On a rare occasion a solution to a technical problem is
agreed to or proposed by a
politician. But those very rare occurances are usually, or
nearly always as a result
of that politician consulting with a good technician or one
sort or another before
offering his/her proposed solution.
-----Original Message-----
From: Hugo Monteiro
Sent: Jun 7, 2010 5:29 PM
To: Hugh Dierker
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ga] Re:
On 06/07/2010 10:43 PM, Hugh Dierker wrote:
Wow. It would seem that you do not care for
technical management by politics.
One has to wonder what's so technical about hitting a
"reject/ignore" button. You just made me feel i'm a rocket scientist!
R's,
Hugo Monteiro.
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<DIV>No need to worry - I contacted a responsible party at
ICANN and </DIV>
<DIV>the miscreant has been removed from the list.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You can all go back to your regularily scheduled
discussions, none</DIV>
<DIV>of which have advanced the cause of domain name owners
in all</DIV>
<DIV>the years that I have been here.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>John</DIV>
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08, 2010 4:32
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<DIV>No need to worry - I contacted a responsible party at
ICANN and </DIV>
<DIV>the miscreant has been removed from the list.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You can all go back to your regularily scheduled
discussions, none</DIV>
<DIV>of which have advanced the cause of domain name owners
in all</DIV>
<DIV>the years that I have been here.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>John</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color:
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<A title=jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>Jeffrey
A. Williams</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June
08, 2010 4:32
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Re:</DIV>
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<P>Hugo and all,</P>
<P> </P>
<P> No my experiance regarding Eric is he prefers
technical management
via some</P>
<P>sort of politics. I on the other hand believe that
such a practice
almost always</P>
<P>ends up being folly and results in a poor solution or
more likely an
unworkable one. </P>
<P>There are no political solutions to technical problems,
only technical
solutions.... </P>
<P>On a rare occasion a solution to a technical problem is
agreed to or
proposed by a </P>
<P>politician. But those very rare occurances are
usually, or nearly
always as a result </P>
<P>of that politician consulting with a good technician or
one sort or another
before </P>
<P>offering his/her proposed solution.<BR><BR><BR></P>
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Message----- <BR>From: Hugo Monteiro
<HUGO.MONTEIRO@xxxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Jun
7, 2010 5:29 PM <BR>To: Hugh Dierker
<HDIERKER2204@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc:
ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Re:
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vAlign=top>Wow. It would seem that you do not care
for technical
takeholders and growing, strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
Abraham Lincoln
"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very
often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability
depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
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