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Re: [ga] Sidetracked Censor
- To: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>, Accountability Headquarters <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx, jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx, rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx
- Subject: Re: [ga] Sidetracked Censor
- From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 16:30:09 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
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<P>Eric and all,</P>
<P> </P>
<P> I largely agree with this statement. I differ only on the part
that espouses the notion that ICANN is still</P>
<P>contracted to the USG. That contract ICANN was released from last
September by a joint congressional</P>
<P>resolution and singed by the President. Such was called/labeled
'Affirmation'. ICANN is still however a </P>
<P>non-profit Calif. Corp. BTW the IANA contract as well as Network
Solutions contracts with the USG</P>
<P>remain in effect.</P>
<P> </P>
<P> This articulated to the proper detail, it is true, and egregious that
ICANN, or any organization/corp.</P>
<P>would be in such a manner, censoring 'people' for their manner of
expression, without due process.</P>
<P>But perhaps the ICANN leadership NOW that they are no longer bound by US
Constitutional legal</P>
<P>principals is of the belief that they can 'Self Govern" to this extent and
remain a Public Service</P>
<P>Provider Corp. all be it a non-profit Calif. Corp. ???<BR><BR><BR></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff
2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Hugh Dierker
<HDIERKER2204@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: May 15, 2010 10:31 AM <BR>To: Accountability
Headquarters <GA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Subject: [ga] Sidetracked Censor <BR><BR>
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<DIV>Censoring of a list is not in and of itself bad. The two major downsides
are: Liability and Prior Restraint. </DIV>
<DIV>When we begin process of censoring we decide what and when may be posted.
When we undertake that duty/responsibility we become publishers/editors. We
become liable for the words used. So if we publish when Billy calls Suzie a
whore we are in the chain of distributing that defamation and are responsible
therefore.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The grave danger to openness and transparency in censoring comes when
Sotiris really wants to say something but is afraid because it may get him
censored. Or if George sees Sotiris get censored for saying something
then he becomes afraid to speak on the issue and remains silent and society
does not get to here what he has to say. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>But what ICANN does on this list is not only censoring of words. What
ICANN does is not acceptable within modern day notions of civil and human
rights. It bans and shuns <STRONG>people.</STRONG> And it does so in secret
without debate or open or transparent diliberations. This is the lowest of all
forms of discrimination of freedom of thought and speech. It is like being
forced to ride at the back of the bus or refusing service on race or denying
voting on gender. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Soon to be Justice Kegan, forbid military from recruiting at her
school. She did this because of a ban the military has on certain sexual
preferences. No logical person can argue against her point. ICANN has a
contract with the US government yet it is allowed to ban people based upon
speech and political views. This is a violation of all that is
right. It is an afront to the UN and US standards of human rights. It is
insane that it
continues.</DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Jeffrey A.
Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 294k members/stakeholders and
growing, strong!)<BR>"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom"
-<BR> Abraham Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit should go with the performance
of duty and not with what is very<BR>often the accident of glory" - Theodore
Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the
burden, B; liability<BR>depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied
by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."<BR>United States v. Carroll
Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir.
1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated
1/26/04<BR>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of<BR>Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.<BR>ABA member in good
standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Phone:
214-244-4827<BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Jeffrey A. Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup
LLA. - (Over 294k members/stakeholders and growing, strong!)<BR>"Obedience of
the law is the greatest freedom" -<BR> Abraham
Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what
is very<BR>often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the
probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability<BR>depends
upon whether B is less than L multiplied by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than
PL."<BR>United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir.
1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated
1/26/04<BR>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of<BR>Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.<BR>ABA member in good
standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Phone:
214-244-4827<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>
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