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Re: [ga] RE: GA Very Relevant
- To: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [ga] RE: GA Very Relevant
- From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 17:55:54 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
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<P>Dr. Joe and all,</P>
<P> </P>
<P> Your very welcome, you deserve the support! Yes Censorship is
far too often a tool that is misused or</P>
<P>significantly socially abused and usually be control freek type
personalities or as you say, dictatorships.</P>
<P>Empowerment through voting helps, but even that is not enough. Any and
all forms of individual</P>
<P>empowerment, such as education, freedom of speech and expression, and
interpersonal confidence</P>
<P>are also necessary. Yet Censorship in VERY extreme a
few instances is a benificial tool as well. The</P>
<P>judgment to know how and when such instances are prevelent or evident is the
key to the benificial</P>
<P>use of Censorship. In my lifetime I have seen, or known
of precious few instances where Censorship </P>
<P>was properly or benificially used, but often I have seen Censorship used
because it was an easy way</P>
<P>of attempting to solve a social problem, however temporarly,
wrongly, or later proven to be illegally. <BR><BR><BR></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff
2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Joe Baptista
<BAPTISTA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: May 13, 2010 7:23 PM <BR>To: "Jeffrey A.
Williams" <JWKCKID1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc: Hugh Dierker
<HDIERKER2204@xxxxxxxxx>, Accountability Headquarters <GA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx, Rod Beckstrom <ROD_BECKSTROM@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Subject: Re:
[ga] RE: GA Very Relevant <BR><BR>I really want to thank you guys for all the
great support. Yes voting is the solution. Censorship is nothing more then the
tool of dictatorships. Empowerment through voting is the only
solution.<BR><BR>I almost feel inspired to write el
presidente.<BR><BR>regards<BR>joe baptista<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Jeffrey A. Williams
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
target=_blank>jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<P>Eric and all,</P>
<P> </P>
<P> Now this is the right sprit! Well done Eric! First though
we must bring back Dr. Joe. </P>
<P>We must stand by International principals and norms such as censorship is
bad, openness,</P>
<P>transparency and freedom of speech is good! That individual privacy
and security for all</P>
<P>GA members as well as registrants is good, and abragation of same is bad,
ect., ect...</P>
<P>We can set up our own voting mechnisims easily enough. Will ICANN or
the GNSO</P>
<P>approve? Maybe, and maybe not? If not, we try again hopefully
with a/or reason(s) why</P>
<P>the GA's efforts are not recognized or accepted by
ICANN/GNSO.<BR><BR><BR></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT:
rgb(0,0,255) 2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Hugh Dierker
<BR>Sent: May 13, 2010 4:03 PM <BR>To: Accountability Headquarters <BR>Cc: Rod
Beckstrom <BR>Subject: Re: [ga] RE: GA Very Relevant <BR><BR>
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<DIV>The answer has always been right here. I mean right here. Set the
voting mechanisms up for us here. We will do the work to bring together the
documents necessary for filing and applying for these constituencies. We are a
part of the GNSO. We are ancient. And best of all we can vote my ne'er do well
sorry self out of here.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>This would work for all participants. The organization would be formed
here so that in its infancy it would have no capture issues. The GA would
remain whether the one or two Constituencies prevail or not -- and can even
reform and try again if unprevailing. Input can then be had from all in a
General Assembly forum so that how the formation effects and affects all can be
open and transparent. Consensus here would be open to all and give an even
greater sense of public contribution to the process. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I believe this could have a positive influence from outside to inside and
inside to outside of ICANN. An actual GA is perfect for a corporation that has
no membership or stockholders. It does not dilute other interests. It
does not draw away from ongoing progress in other departments. Think of it not
so much a General Assembly but rather General Admittance.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu,
5/13/10, <A href="mailto:sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
target=_blank>sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> <I><<A
href="mailto:sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
target=_blank>sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: <A href="mailto:sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
target=_blank>sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> <<A
href="mailto:sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
target=_blank>sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [ga] RE: GA
irrelevant<BR>To: <A href="mailto:ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
target=_blank>ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 11:42
AM<BR><BR>
<DIV><BR>Yes, Roberto, please answer Andy's question and then please revisit
my<BR>question on SPECIFICS: How must registrants organize themselves in
a<BR>manner that will be acceptable to ICANN? Will ICANN fund a
voting<BR>mechanism, for instance?<BR><BR>Sotiris Sotiropoulos<BR><BR>Andy
Gardner wrote:<BR>> I trust ICANN will be funding this from the per-domain
tax already paid by<BR>> Registrants?<BR>><BR>> On May 12, 2010, at
4:50 PM, Roberto Gaetano wrote:<BR>><BR>>><BR>>>
Sotiris:<BR>>><BR>>>><BR>>>> So, why don't you tell us,
finally, how we should go about<BR>>>> organizing ourselves in a
manner that would be acceptable.<BR>>>> Please be as specific as
possible.<BR>>><BR>>> I thought I already did.<BR>>> Since
the changes to the GNSO structure, proposed by the GNSO Review WG<BR>>>
and<BR>>> the SIC, have been approved by the Board, there is the
concrete<BR>>> possibility<BR>>> of creating a constituency for
registrants. Creation of new<BR>>> constituencies<BR>>> has even
been encouraged last year.<BR>>> This is a new opportunity, something
that did not exist in the past.<BR>>> It is now up to the registrants on
this list or anywhere else to decide<BR>>> whether they want to take
advantage of this opportunity or not.<BR>>><BR>>>
Cheers,<BR>>>
Roberto<BR>>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR><BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Jeffrey
A. Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 294k members/stakeholders
and growing, strong!)<BR>"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom"
-<BR> Abraham Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit should go with the performance
of duty and not with what is very<BR>often the accident of glory" - Theodore
Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the
burden, B; liability<BR>depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied
by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."<BR>United States v. Carroll
Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir.
1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated
1/26/04<BR>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of<BR>Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.<BR>ABA member in good
standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail <A href="mailto:jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
target=_blank>jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>Phone:
214-244-4827<BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Jeffrey A. Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup
LLA. - (Over 294k members/stakeholders and growing, strong!)<BR>"Obedience of
the law is the greatest freedom" -<BR> Abraham
Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what
is very<BR>often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the
probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability<BR>depends
upon whether B is less than L multiplied by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than
PL."<BR>United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir.
1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated
1/26/04<BR>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of<BR>Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.<BR>ABA member in good
standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail <A href="mailto:jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
target=_blank>jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>Phone:
214-244-4827<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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<P>Regards,<BR><BR>Jeffrey A. Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over
294k members/stakeholders and growing, strong!)<BR>"Obedience of the law is the
greatest freedom" -<BR> Abraham Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit should go
with the performance of duty and not with what is very<BR>often the accident of
glory" - Theodore Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the probability be called P; the injury,
L; and the burden, B; liability<BR>depends upon whether B is less than L
multiplied by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."<BR>United States v.
Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir.
1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated
1/26/04<BR>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of<BR>Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.<BR>ABA member in good
standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Phone:
214-244-4827<BR></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>
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