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Jeffrey A Williams and Joe Baptista are one and the same (was Re: [ga] RE: Removal from GA list)
- To: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Matthew Pemble" <matthew@xxxxxxxxxx>, <denise.michel@xxxxxxxxx>, <ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Jeffrey A Williams and Joe Baptista are one and the same (was Re: [ga] RE: Removal from GA list)
- From: "John Palmer" <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 23:29:39 -0500
Joe, you know there is a rule against posting under a different name while you
are under suspension on the GA list.
Joe, I know that "Jeffrey" is just you posting under a different name. I spent
most of the day online researching "Jeffrey Williams"
and am convinced of that now, after my research.
You have been using him as your straight man for quite a number of years now -
how impressive that you've been able
to keep up this real complicated act for all of these years - kudos to you.
Now your gig is up.
To the ICANN moderators: Jeffrey A. Williams is in all likelyhood Joe Baptista
posting under a different name.
Take whatever actions you willl regarding this matter.
Cheers,
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeffrey A. Williams
To: Matthew Pemble ; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> GA ; denise.michel@xxxxxxxxx ;
ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx ; rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx ; roberto@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] RE: Removal from GA list
Matthew and all,
Good points all! Further given that ICANN's GNSO approved the rules by
which the GA is loosely
administered by, I for one could not find a single rule that Dr. Joe
violated, and at a minimum
Mr. Palmers discourse was similar in discourse manner, as if that really is
relevant or
matters.
Frank was/is probably stepping in to mediate as his position provides for.
As to why and/or
whom requested such I do not know and believe in the interest of transparency
should
be revealed specifically.
Finnaly I feel abused in this process as well as my rights to publically
reading Dr. Joes
remarks has been abruptly denied me by person(s) unknown and for reasons that
are
not in keeping with the GA rules. Therefore again I kindly but strongly
request that
Dr. Joe be reinstated forthwith and that he be publically appologized to for
such a
improper suspension.
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Pemble
Sent: May 7, 2010 2:18 AM
To: "ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> GA"
Subject: Re: [ga] RE: Removal from GA list
Folks,
I would just like to point out, in the interests of fairness, that, after
some 13 hours (some 6 or so of which were working hours in California) and 4
on-list responses from the ICANN ombudsman, I have not received any public or
private response to my email regarding Joe's suspension apparently due to my
email.
ICANN host this list therefore, under the law as it applies to me, they do
have the right (in fact it is trivial to argue, the responsibility) to censor
inappropriate content. I appreciate this is different for those of you with
First Amendment rights under the US Constitution :), if you assume that ICANN
is a government agent (and First Amendment case law would suggest that it
counts as one for that purpose.) However, with that comes the responsibility
to explain your public actions.
I am increasingly puzzled - especially by Frank's interventions. Would
ICANN please either suspend me (and explain what rule or norm I breached) and
reinstate Joe, or correct the explicit statement that Joe was suspended because
of my email.
If I do receive a private email from ICANN explaining or correcting their
position, I will send an email to the list stating that such has been received.
Matthew
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Regards,
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