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Re: [ga] Rod Beckstrom TM application

To: Antony Van Couvering <avc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>, ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx, icann-board@xxxxxxxxx, rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ga] Rod Beckstrom TM application
From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:10:48 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
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<P>Anthony and all,</P>
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<P>&nbsp; All I can say is that the "Kings" of the bullshitters in IT are on 
the ICANN board and Sr. staff.&nbsp; However</P>
<P>the IETF and the IANA are only a few bullshitters short of ICANN.&nbsp; So 
this said, it would be nice, and</P>
<P>I believe only reasonable if some/most of the ICANN Board and Sr. staff 
would quietly resign so that</P>
<P>there might be a chance for honest folks to get ICANN on track with the 
user/stakeholder/registrant</P>
<P>Internet community.&nbsp; <BR><BR><BR></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 
2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Antony Van Couvering 
<AVC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Feb 16, 2010 11:23 AM <BR>To: Hugh Dierker 
<HDIERKER2204@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc: GNSO GA Mailing List 
<GA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Rod Beckstrom TM application 
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space">Hi Hugh,
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<DIV>We're all bullshitters sometimes (at least I am), and as you say there are 
plenty in ICANN, so I agree with you say.&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>And that's why to me it's a Good Thing that the new CEO has a pretty 
advanced sense of what bullshit means -- and a sense of humor about it.</DIV>
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<DIV>Antony</DIV>
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<DIV>On Feb 16, 2010, at 6:29 AM, Hugh Dierker wrote:</DIV><BR 
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<DIV>Hi Anthony,</DIV>
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<DIV>My name is Eric and I am a bullshitter, ya I went to rehab, they called it 
law school, trouble is all I learned there was how to get away with it and make 
money.</DIV>
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<DIV>I know a lot of great bullshitters in ICANN. They may have a problem but 
as you point out below, they are generally good people with a problem,,,,&nbsp; 
who isn't?&nbsp; Those of us who get paid so much to work here on the GA often 
forget that the Internet is working and working quite well. All the top dawgs 
you mentioned were a part of that. Sure we found errors and find errors and 
sometime egos have not allowed those errors to be honestly addressed but all in 
all most of the folks are good people working hard -- sometimes that is easy to 
forget.</DIV>
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<DIV>This list is up and running.&nbsp; Beckstrom left it alone. Good for 
him.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 2/16/10, Antony Van Couvering <I>&lt;<A 
href="mailto:avc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
target=_blank>avc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;</I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: 
rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Antony Van Couvering &lt;<A 
href="mailto:avc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
target=_blank>avc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Rod Beckstrom TM 
application<BR>To: "GNSO GA Mailing List" &lt;<A 
href="mailto:ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
target=_blank>ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 
2:15 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail><BR>Hi George,<BR><BR>If it's just between you and me, why 
copy it to the list?<BR><BR>You have to have a special sense of humor not to 
miss the laugh value in a trademark registration of Bullshitter's 
Anonymous.&nbsp; <BR><BR>I don't think it advocates bullshitting as a 
"foundation for life."&nbsp; It's a clear reference to a 12-step program for 
chronic bullshitters.&nbsp; Analogs are Alcoholics Anonymous, Narcotics 
Anonymous, etc. etc.&nbsp; Do you find that people often have to explain jokes 
to you?<BR><BR>As for Beckstrom, I like him.&nbsp; I like his style, I like his 
smarts, I like that he can see over and beyond the little world that is 
ICANN.&nbsp; I have hopes for him.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I especially like his 
speech to the CSIS recently. It's the best survey/intro to ICANN I've 
heard.&nbsp; <A 
href="http://csis.org/multimedia/video-icann-and-internet-ecosystem"; 
target=_blank>http://csis.org/multimedia/video-icann-and-internet-ecosystem</A><BR><BR>You
 ask, "Why didn't you slam Twomey when he was in power?"<BR><BR>When ICANN does 
something I think is good, I like to say something positive.&nbsp; When the 
opposite is true, I say that too. And I have named names when it seemed 
merited.&nbsp; Including slamming Twomey (and Vint Cerf) when they were in 
power.&nbsp; I would have liked to praise them, but sometimes they really 
sucked:<BR><BR><A 
href="http://www.namesatwork.com/blog/2006/11/26/the-internet-is-made-out-of-bricks-not-tubes";
 
target=_blank>http://www.namesatwork.com/blog/2006/11/26/the-internet-is-made-out-of-bricks-not-tubes</A>
 <BR><A 
href="http://www.namesatwork.com/blog/2008/06/08/icann-constituencies-bad-idea-whose-time-has-gone";
 
target=_blank>http://www.namesatwork.com/blog/2008/06/08/icann-constituencies-bad-idea-whose-time-has-gone</A><BR><A
 
href="http://www.namesatwork.com/blog/2008/04/02/domain-name-price-jump-moores-law-or-parkinsons-laws";
 
target=_blank>http://www.namesatwork.com/blog/2008/04/02/domain-name-price-jump-moores-law-or-parkinsons-laws</A><BR><A
 href="http://www.namesatwork.com/blog/2006/03/18/icanns-pillow-principle"; 
target=_blank>http://www.namesatwork.com/blog/2006/03/18/icanns-pillow-principle</A>.<BR><BR>By
 the way, keep up the good work finding all the criminal activities of the 
straight-faced corporations who drone on about the horrors of cybersquatting. I 
was sorry you turned the task over to ICANN staff instead of continuing 
yourself -- you're much better at it than they are.&nbsp; I couldn't find that 
comment again, though I searched for it -- could you post the URL? It's really 
very funny, I'd like to read it again. <BR><BR>Best 
regards,<BR><BR>Antony<BR><BR><BR>On Feb 15, 2010, at 9:09 AM, George Kirikos 
wrote:<BR><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Hello,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; --- On Mon, 2/15/10, Antony 
Van Couvering &lt;<A 
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=avc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
target=_blank ymailto="mailto:avc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>avc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt; 
wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt; Hilarious!&nbsp; I love it.&nbsp; Welcome change from 
the<BR>&gt;&gt; straight-faced droning of the previous CEO.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 
lol Antony. Just between you and me, why is it that the people that attempt to 
put a "positive spin" on this revelation are also the same people who are 
seeking a "gift from the King" from the "Royal Prerogative"? :-)<BR>&gt; 
<BR>&gt; <A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Prerogative"; 
target=_blank>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Prerogative</A><BR>&gt; 
<BR>&gt; If the present King was naked, would you also describe it as a 
"welcome change" from the overdressed past monarch? How is Beckstrom to 
interpret your praise now, when you so easily slam the past CEO (who is now 
powerless, and who didn't give you what you want) as "a straight-faced" drone? 
Why didn't you slam Twomey when he was in power?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; It's easy to 
give fake praise to someone in power, when you want something. Perhaps the BS 
is the only thing inflating his ego?<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <A 
href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bullshitter"; 
target=_blank>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bullshitter</A><BR>&gt;
 <BR>&gt; It's harder to stand up and say that the emperor has no clothes. 
Someone of quality, someone with a sense of self awareness would rather have 
the truth, so that they can improve themselves. BS can take one only so far, 
it's a weak foundation for life.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Amused,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 
George Kirikos<BR>&gt; <A href="http://www.leap.com/"; 
target=_blank>http://www.leap.com/</A><BR>&gt; 
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