Re: [ga] Rod Beckstrom TM application

[Antony Van Couvering <avc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Hugh,

We're all bullshitters sometimes (at least I am), and as you say there are 
plenty in ICANN, so I agree with you say. 

And that's why to me it's a Good Thing that the new CEO has a pretty advanced 
sense of what bullshit means -- and a sense of humor about it.

Antony




On Feb 16, 2010, at 6:29 AM, Hugh Dierker wrote:

> Hi Anthony,
>  
> My name is Eric and I am a bullshitter, ya I went to rehab, they called it 
> law school, trouble is all I learned there was how to get away with it and 
> make money.
>  
> I know a lot of great bullshitters in ICANN. They may have a problem but as 
> you point out below, they are generally good people with a problem,,,,  who 
> isn't?  Those of us who get paid so much to work here on the GA often forget 
> that the Internet is working and working quite well. All the top dawgs you 
> mentioned were a part of that. Sure we found errors and find errors and 
> sometime egos have not allowed those errors to be honestly addressed but all 
> in all most of the folks are good people working hard -- sometimes that is 
> easy to forget.
>  
> This list is up and running.  Beckstrom left it alone. Good for him.
> 
> --- On Tue, 2/16/10, Antony Van Couvering <avc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> From: Antony Van Couvering <avc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [ga] Rod Beckstrom TM application
> To: "GNSO GA Mailing List" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 2:15 AM
> 
> 
> Hi George,
> 
> If it's just between you and me, why copy it to the list?
> 
> You have to have a special sense of humor not to miss the laugh value in a 
> trademark registration of Bullshitter's Anonymous.  
> 
> I don't think it advocates bullshitting as a "foundation for life."  It's a 
> clear reference to a 12-step program for chronic bullshitters.  Analogs are 
> Alcoholics Anonymous, Narcotics Anonymous, etc. etc.  Do you find that people 
> often have to explain jokes to you?
> 
> As for Beckstrom, I like him.  I like his style, I like his smarts, I like 
> that he can see over and beyond the little world that is ICANN.  I have hopes 
> for him.   I especially like his speech to the CSIS recently. It's the best 
> survey/intro to ICANN I've heard.  
> http://csis.org/multimedia/video-icann-and-internet-ecosystem
> 
> You ask, "Why didn't you slam Twomey when he was in power?"
> 
> When ICANN does something I think is good, I like to say something positive.  
> When the opposite is true, I say that too. And I have named names when it 
> seemed merited.  Including slamming Twomey (and Vint Cerf) when they were in 
> power.  I would have liked to praise them, but sometimes they really sucked:
> 
> http://www.namesatwork.com/blog/2006/11/26/the-internet-is-made-out-of-bricks-not-tubes
>  
> http://www.namesatwork.com/blog/2008/06/08/icann-constituencies-bad-idea-whose-time-has-gone
> http://www.namesatwork.com/blog/2008/04/02/domain-name-price-jump-moores-law-or-parkinsons-laws
> http://www.namesatwork.com/blog/2006/03/18/icanns-pillow-principle.
> 
> By the way, keep up the good work finding all the criminal activities of the 
> straight-faced corporations who drone on about the horrors of cybersquatting. 
> I was sorry you turned the task over to ICANN staff instead of continuing 
> yourself -- you're much better at it than they are.  I couldn't find that 
> comment again, though I searched for it -- could you post the URL? It's 
> really very funny, I'd like to read it again. 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Antony
> 
> 
> On Feb 15, 2010, at 9:09 AM, George Kirikos wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > --- On Mon, 2/15/10, Antony Van Couvering <avc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Hilarious!  I love it.  Welcome change from the
> >> straight-faced droning of the previous CEO.
> > 
> > lol Antony. Just between you and me, why is it that the people that attempt 
> > to put a "positive spin" on this revelation are also the same people who 
> > are seeking a "gift from the King" from the "Royal Prerogative"? :-)
> > 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Prerogative
> > 
> > If the present King was naked, would you also describe it as a "welcome 
> > change" from the overdressed past monarch? How is Beckstrom to interpret 
> > your praise now, when you so easily slam the past CEO (who is now 
> > powerless, and who didn't give you what you want) as "a straight-faced" 
> > drone? Why didn't you slam Twomey when he was in power?
> > 
> > It's easy to give fake praise to someone in power, when you want something. 
> > Perhaps the BS is the only thing inflating his ego?
> > 
> > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bullshitter
> > 
> > It's harder to stand up and say that the emperor has no clothes. Someone of 
> > quality, someone with a sense of self awareness would rather have the 
> > truth, so that they can improve themselves. BS can take one only so far, 
> > it's a weak foundation for life.
> > 
> > Amused,
> > 
> > George Kirikos
> > http://www.leap.com/
> > 
> 
> 
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