RE: [ga] Open Source Voting Software Concept Released

[Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>]

How completely insincere and false.
The TLDA denies membership based upon nonpublished data. Otherwise you would 
have just told us what it is. You in fact do have a voting system. But I asure 
you that you do not own any regulations. What is the link to this voting and 
by-laws and when were they adopted by members?
 
Clearly in the case of the TLDA and the NCUC the emphasis is on the club status 
and not open membership with voting rights.

--- On Sun, 10/25/09, Karl E. Peters <tlda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From: Karl E. Peters <tlda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [ga] Open Source Voting Software Concept Released
To: "Hugh Dierker" <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx, ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx, Glen@xxxxxxxxx, 
governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jeffrey A. Williams" 
<jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 4:31 PM


FYI, The TLDA does in fact have its own voting system, that unlike the
US Government, requires real people who meet real criteria set forth in
the By-Laws and published voting regulations to cast votes for any
measure taken up. Those who failed, and continue to fail, to meet or try
to meet the required criteria and procedure will naturally be denied a
vote. The TLDA was not set up as a constituency, but rather more of a
trade association. It seems a apple is being criticized for not being a
very good orange. While you may certainly do that, it is without real
merit or value.

Karl E. Peters

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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [ga] Open Source Voting Software Concept Released
> From: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Sun, October 25, 2009 6:23 pm
> To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx, ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx, Glen@xxxxxxxxx,       
> governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> Jeff,
>  
> The issue is remarkably well timed however the articles are farcical.
> If we take what the following are doing we can see that voting by the 
> ultimate stakeholders is still a long ways off -- not for logistical, logical 
> or even legacal reasons but because of the politics of the players;
>  
> Danny Younger - over at the start up work for a "registrants goup" no direct 
> voting is on the table-- worries of capture and control.
> Paul Lehto - over at the IGF bringing a hailstorm of reasons why voting is 
> terrible and can only be done right or not at all.
> Denise Michels -- here and at the ALAC -- "we can neither provide mechanisms 
> nor endorse any process".
> TLDA -- That mess has gone completely south for resistance to open voting 
> amoung "allowable members". Which brings us to civil society and Internet 
> governance,,,,,
> UN-ISOC-IGF -- Requires a "suitable" "cadre"???
> NCUC - Is most notable with the Muellerites denying membership and voting 
> rights to any that do not cow tow to the Ivory tower benevelont dictatorship 
> of those with foundation funding that is contigent on no common people being 
> allowed to participate.
>  
> The very sad and complete truth that it is the societal stakeholders that are 
> blocking direct dotcommoner representation in Internet governance, reveals 
> the direct power struggle by egomaniac wantabeees clawing their way to 
> funding and publication rights at the expense of representation. I know what 
> is going on and can route around it while the Nartens continue to herd the 
> cats in such a way to avoid consensus and the establishment of voting rights. 
> But I worry for my children.
> 
> 
> --- On Sun, 10/25/09, Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [ga] Open Source Voting Software Concept Released
> To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx, ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx, Glen@xxxxxxxxx, 
> governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 12:47 PM
> 
> 
> 
> All,
> 
>   Can ICANN still further afford to ignore?  Me thinks not for long...
> 
> "Wired is reporting that the Open Source Digital
> Voting Foundation has announced the first release of 
> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/10/open-sourceLinux- and Ruby-based 
> election management software. This software 
> should compete in the same realm as Election Systems & Software, as well as
> Diebold/Premiere for use by County registrars. Mitch Kapor founder of
> Lotus 1-2-3 and Dean Logan, Registrar for Los Angeles County, and Debra
> Bowen, California Secretary of State, all took part in a formal
> announcement ceremony. The http://osdv.org/aboutOSDV is working with 
> multiple jurisdictions, activists, developers and other organizations 
> to bring together 'the best and brightest in technology and policy' 
> to create 'guidelines and specifications for high assurance digital voting
> services.' The announcement was made as part of the OSDV 
> http://www.trustthevote.org/
> Trust the Vote project, where open source tools are to be used to create a
> certifiable and sustainable open source voting system."
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> 
> Jeffrey A. Williams
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