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Re: [ga] Agenda Item 8 -- GA

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  • Subject: Re: [ga] Agenda Item 8 -- GA
  • From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:26:09 -0500 (GMT-05:00)

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<P>Eric and all,</P>
<P>&nbsp; Given the testamony is now a part of history as are the discussions 
from the pre and post <BR>DNSO ga as well as a few other ICANN constituencies 
with non-ICANN archives fully</P>
<P>recorded much the same as the now long defunct gtld-mou archives, it is and 
has been</P>
<P>clear the niether Brent nor Denise were fully forthright in their 
testamony.&nbsp; FWIW I for one </P>
<P>am doubtful that such will be properly investigated as such should 
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<HDIERKER2204@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Sep 24, 2009 11:31 AM <BR>To: GA 
<GA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Danny Younger <DANNYYOUNGER@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Subject: Re: 
[ga] Agenda Item 8 -- GA <BR><BR>
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<DIV>Two points Danny:</DIV>
<DIV>1. Ignorance is not an excuse for being wrong, although it may be an 
excuse for a downright misstatements of fact; <A 
href="http://gnso.icann.org/resolutions/index.html#200709"; target=_blank 
<DIV>Where that right and responsibility came from was <A 
href="http://www.icann.org/en/general/bylaws.htm#XX"; target=_blank 
rel=nofollow>http://www.icann.org/en/general/bylaws.htm#XX</A>&nbsp; and the 
history can be found here: <A 
href="http://www.geolang.com/draftGAListRules5.htm"; target=_blank 
<DIV>2. Why is this addressed to GNSO Council from ALAC which is not a forum 
for individuals but rather for groups?&nbsp; Clearly Ms. Michels agenda is to 
transfer this list to a group forum of only members of established 
<DIV>This statement by Denise is a complete opposite statement than the one 
Brent made under penalty of perjury to US congress yesterday. This can be found 
here: <A href="http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/calendar.html"; 
target=_blank><SPAN class=yshortcuts 
<DIV>We must assume one of these folks is not being forthright.<BR><BR>--- On 
<B>Thu, 9/24/09, Danny Younger <I>&lt;dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx&gt;</I></B> 
rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Danny Younger 
&lt;dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Subject: [ga] Agenda Item 8 -- GA<BR>To: "GA" 
&lt;ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 6:44 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail><BR>from the Council list:<BR><BR>Dear Council 
Members,<BR><BR>I've been asked to provide some information regarding item 8 
on<BR>tomorrow's Council meeting agenda ("GA List request for 
election<BR>support").<BR><BR>Under the current <SPAN>ICANN</SPAN> bylaws, 
there is no provision for any officers<BR>(or Secretariat) of the GA mailing 
list, nor any provisions regarding<BR>GNSO responsibility for the GA list. It 
is not an official structure<BR>within ICANN.&nbsp; Thus, ICANN Staff will not 
be “preparing a voting<BR>booth” or facilitating any election related to this 
list.<BR><BR>For those not familiar with this list, "GA" stands for 
"General<BR>Assembly," which was a structure within the original DNSO 
(predecessor<BR>to GNSO) that ceased to exist when the DNSO was restructured 
into the<BR>GNSO years ago.&nbsp; There was an expectation at the time that the 
new<BR>GNSO would replace the old GA email list with a 
substantive,<BR>cross-constituency discussion list, but that did not 
materialize.&nbsp; The<BR>list was left open, but there is no obligation by the 
GNSO to maintain<BR>it.<BR><BR>Please let me know if you have 
questions.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Denise<BR><BR><BR>Denise Michel<BR>ICANN Vice 
President<BR>Policy Development<BR>denise.michel@xxxxxxxxx<BR>+1.408.429.3072 
mobile<BR>+1.310.578.8632 direct<BR><BR><BR><BR>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 
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