RE: No current suspensions,,,, was:Re: [ga] Public Comment: Proposed Bylaw Changes to Improve Accountability

["Hugh Dierker" <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>]

And pursuant to exactly what would you have me do this?

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------Original Message------
From: Debbie Garside <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Hugh Dierker'" <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>,<ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,"'Glen de 
Saint Géry'" <Glen@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, Aug 4, 8:34 AM +0100
Subject: RE: No current suspensions,,,, was:Re: [ga] Public Comment: Proposed 
Bylaw Changes to Improve Accountability

So Eric..
 
You have heard from Avri that her term expires on the 30th of October 2009.
I believe your term expired last year.  I would be grateful if you could
call an election as soon as possible.
 
Debbie


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From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Hugh Dierker
Sent: 04 August 2009 02:21
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Glen de Saint Géry'; debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: No current suspensions,,,, was:Re: [ga] Public Comment:
Proposed Bylaw Changes to Improve Accountability



Now I know you are just not paying attention.  I will try again.  When
did/does Avri's term expire? When does/did Twomey's term, Dengate-Thrushs'
term expire?  When did/does the existing or 2000 BoD members' term expire?
 
For help and insight look up Karl's term and the term boardsquatting.  You
see my remaining as Chair is in the best tradition of ICANN. Your
unceromonious termination as a monitor is also in the best tradition of
ICANN.  As bad in taste as this reference may be -- the only two of note who
left their posts in timely fashion are very much no longer with us.
 
 By the way I believe JW has been reinstated. If this is wrong perhaps Glen
can tell us why she is directly violating directives from the Council and
acting unilaterally at direction of other staff.

--- On Mon, 8/3/09, Debbie Garside <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



From: Debbie Garside <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: No current suspensions,,,, was:Re: [ga] Public Comment:
Proposed Bylaw Changes to Improve Accountability
To: "'Hugh Dierker'" <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "'Glen de
Saint Géry'" <Glen@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 2:26 PM



Eric

Nice try!  I am, of course, referring to your term as Chair of the GA -
which has expired.  You should now consult with the GA Secretariat and call
an Election.

Debbie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hugh Dierker [mailto:hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx
<http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx> ]
> Sent: 03 August 2009 22:06
> To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; 'Glen de
Saint Géry'; Debbie Garside
> Subject: RE: No current suspensions,,,, was:Re: [ga] Public
> Comment: Proposed Bylaw Changes to Improve Accountability
>
> I am looking for the hidden humor.  It escapes me.
> Do we have a BoD CEO?  Is Avri still chair? Answer--All expired.
>
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> ------Original Message------
> From: Debbie Garside <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >
> To: "'Hugh Dierker'"
> <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx
<http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
>,<ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >,"'Glen de
Saint
> Géry'" <Glen@xxxxxxxxx
<http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Glen@xxxxxxxxx> >
> Date: Mon, Aug 3, 3:12 PM +0100
> Subject: RE: No current suspensions,,,, was:Re: [ga] Public
> Comment: Proposed Bylaw Changes to Improve Accountability
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> Does this mean that we should start afresh with a new Chair
> too?  As I am sure you are aware, your term has expired.
>
>
>
> Now would be an excellent time to call for an election.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
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>
> From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On
Behalf Of Hugh Dierker
> Sent: 02 August 2009 05:07
> To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Glen de
Saint Géry
> Subject: Re: No current suspensions,,,, was:Re: [ga] Public Comment:
> Proposed Bylaw Changes to Improve Accountability
>
>
>
>
> Dear Glen,
>
>
>
> In light of your notice of this thread. In furtherance and
> keeping with the intent and spirit of ICANN's changes to
> increase Public Comment and create a more inclusive environment:
>
>
>
> The suspension from the GA list of Jeff Williams was actuated
> by a since resigned monitor.
>
> It was contrary to our best rules of procedure.
>
> However it was allowed until this time.
>
>
>
> While our rules have many questionable processes and are
> lacking in broad support, they are in fact the best we have
> since the passage of resolution
> 20070906-2 of the GNSO Council, which was passed at our
> request to self organize.
>
>
>
> As is obvious from the original title of this thread, ICANN
> is dynamic and changing.  In order for there to be an
> effective public comment forum specifically for the GNSO we
> must start fresh with no suspensions.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Eric Hugh Dierker
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 7/29/09, Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@xxxxxxxxx
<http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Glen@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
>
>
> From: Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@xxxxxxxxx
<http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Glen@xxxxxxxxx> >
> Subject: [ga] Public Comment: Proposed Bylaw Changes to
> Improve Accountability
> To: "ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> "
<ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >
> Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 1:39 AM
>
>
>
> HYPERLINK
> "http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-27jul09-en.htm";
> \nhttp://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-27jul09-en.htm
> Public Comment: Proposed Bylaw Changes to Improve Accountability
>
> 27 July 2009
> Two proposed accountability measures have been posted by
> direction of the Board for 60 days of public comments, from
> 23 July 2009 through 25 September 2009. This is the latest
> step in the Improving Institutional Confidence process.
>
> The first bylaw revision is a new mechanism called the
> "Community Re-Examination Vote". It would allow the ICANN
> community to request the Board to re-examine a Board decision
> taken by resolution.
>
> The second proposal would revise one of the existing bylaws
> and replace the independent third-party review process with a
> more robust process, the "Independent Review Body".
>
> These proposals represent a significant step forward in
> ICANN's already considerable accountability. The draft bylaw
> changes have been developed in response to community input to
> the President's Strategy Committee over the last 12 months.
>
> You are invited to review the proposed changes to the ICANN
> Bylaws linked to on this page and provide your input to the
> public comments forum.
>
> Details of proposed changes
>
> 1. Community Re-Examination Vote
>
> The ICANN Bylaws currently set forth three mechanisms for
> accountability and review of ICANN Board decisions: (1) the
> Reconsideration Process, Article IV, Section 2; (2) the
> Independent Review Process, Article IV, Section 3; and (3)
> the Office of the Ombudsman, Article V.
>
> The objective is for this procedure to allow the ICANN
> community to come together through the Supporting
> Organizations and Advisory Committees and vote for the Board
> to re-examine a Board decision taken by resolution.
>
> The proposed Bylaws setting forth the Community
> Re-Examination Vote are available here [PDF, 53K].
>
> 2. Independent Review Body
>
> ICANN has an Independent Review Process in place, as
> established at Article IV, Section 3 (1) of the bylaws:
>
> "ICANN shall have in place a separate process for independent
> third-party review of Board actions alleged by an affected
> party to be inconsistent with the Articles of Incorporation
> or Bylaws."
>
> The provider for the current Independent Review Process is
> the International Centre for Dispute Resolution (ICDR). (More
> detail about the Independent Review Process is available
> here: HYPERLINK
> "http://www.icann.org/en/general/accountability_review.html";
> \nhttp://www.icann.org/en/general/accountability_review.html)
>
> The existing review process is limited in scope, and focuses
> mainly whether the Board has followed ICANN's Articles of
> Incorporation and Bylaws when rendering a decision. The
> current review process relies mainly upon the concepts of
> fidelity and fairness.
>
>
>
> However, following extensive and sustained public input on
> this issue, the PSC recommended a broadening of the review
> process to allow for review of the rationality of Board
> decisions as well.
>
> The proposed changes that would create the Independent Review
> Body would allow reviews of both the rationality and the
> fairness of Board decisions.
> These concepts are described under the rubrics of Fairness,
> Fidelity and Rationality in the May 2009 the staff report
> ("Improving Institutional
> Confidence: The Way Forward" (HYPERLINK
> "http://www.icann.org/en/jpa/iic/iic-the-way-forward-31may09-en.pdf";
> \nhttp://www.icann.org/en/jpa/iic/iic-the-way-forward-31may09-
> en.pdf [PDF, 112K]).
>
> The proposed amendments to the Bylaws setting forth the IRB
> process are available at HYPERLINK
> "http://www.icann.org/en/general/proposed-bylaw-revisions-iv-3
> -redline-27jul
> 09-en.pdf"
> \nhttp://www.icann.org/en/general/proposed-bylaw-revisions-iv-
> 3-redline-27ju
> l09-en.pdf [PDF, 153K]. Please note: the attached document
> with the proposed bylaw text is presented in 'track changes'
> version to allow you to compare the proposed text to the
> existing text of the bylaws.
>
> ICANN's legal staff expects the procedures and rules for the
> existing Independent Review Process would broadly serve the
> expanded scope of the IRB but that some revisions will be
> required to make them conform fully to the IRB bylaw
> provisions, if adopted.
>
>
>
> Background
>
> The proposed new accountability measures are based on
> recommendations made to the Board by the President's Strategy
> Committee (PSC) in February 2009.
> At the Mexico City meeting in March 2009, the Board directed
> staff to produce implementation analysis of the PSC proposals.
>
> On 31 May 2009, the report "Improving Institutional
> Confidence: The Way Forward" (HYPERLINK
> "http://www.icann.org/en/jpa/iic/iic-the-way-forward-31may09-en.pdf";
> \nhttp://www.icann.org/en/jpa/iic/iic-the-way-forward-31may09-
> en.pdf) was published for information and discussion ahead of
> the Sydney meeting in June 2009. This report included two
> detailed proposals for implementing the PSC's recommended
> bylaw changes to modify or create accountability and review
> mechanisms.
>
> At the Sydney meeting in June 2009, the Board acknowledged
> this report and directed the opening of a 60-day period of
> public consultation on the proposed bylaw changes.
>
> (For more information about the PSC's work, including
> previous documents and public comment periods, please visit:
> HYPERLINK "http://www.icann.org/en/jpa/iic/";
> \nhttp://www.icann.org/en/jpa/iic/.
> Information about the PSC itself is at HYPERLINK
> "http://www.icann.org/en/psc"; \nhttp://www.icann.org/en/psc)
>
> Deadline and How to Submit Comments:
>
> Public comments on these proposals will run for 60 days, from
> 27 July 2009 through 25 September 2009.
>
> To submit comments:
>
> Comments are welcome via email to: HYPERLINK
> "http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=iic-proposed-byl
> aws@xxxxxxxxx <http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=aws@xxxxxxxxx>
"
> \niic-proposed-bylaws@xxxxxxxxx
<http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=niic-proposed-bylaws@xxxxxxxxx
> .
>
> To view comments: An archive of all comments received will be
> publicly posted at: HYPERLINK
> "http://forum.icann.org/lists/iic-proposed-bylaws/";
> \nhttp://forum.icann.org/lists/iic-proposed-bylaws/
>
> Glen de Saint Géry
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