Re: [ga] Did a dog eat dot-cat's homework?

[Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>]

Sorry dude,
 
the leap of faith was not directed toward politics but rather accounting; as in 
http://www.leap.com/ Georges brainchild.
 
But I'll leap in with Bo the waterdog.

--- On Wed, 4/15/09, Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ga] Did a dog eat dot-cat's homework?
To: hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 2:29 PM

Eric and all,

  Yes.  And I am sure you will take with me and most of the rest
of the world a "Leap of Faith" with our new president, Barack
Obama?  My guess is no you shall not.  What does that say for
"Leaps of Faith"?  IMO, it says very little that can be attributed
to good judgment.

Hugh Dierker wrote:

>
> The metaphor Jeff is set to illustrate that columns and required forms
  do not always tell the whole story. That good auditing and reporting
  sometimes takes into account matters that do not fit into a box or
  into the assigned "homework" but upon simple inquiry the knowledge
and
  target can be acquired elsewise.  What would you say if cat-dogs
  reason for an empty column was due to the death of an employee
  assigned to such task or let us say an emergency in a maternity
  situation? Life does not always fit into deadlines and checked boxes.
  Sometimes we must take a "leap of faith" that others are doing
their
  job as well as is reasonable. I see nothing sinister in this
  situation.

  --- On Tue, 4/14/09, Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  wrote:

       From: Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
       Subject: Re: [ga] Did a dog eat dot-cat's homework?
       To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
       Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 6:47 PM


       Eric and all,

         Please help me to understand, my wee brain is specifically limited
       or constrained to understand you point Eric.  So I'll venture a
       WAG ( Wild ass guess ).  Is your point, however obtuse, as to a
       suggested conclusion for ICANN to take your childhood experience
       as a metaphor of guidance as to a particular standard of operation
       and/or correction?

       Hugh Dierker wrote:

       >
       > George, I believe I followed you. But I am afraid my computer only
         reflects the numbers. It does not provide me with how you reach your
         conclusion that this is malfeasance or evidence of incompetence.I am
         also looking to find a way that makes it material. Your guidance is
         appreciated. (I once told an English teacher that my homework was:
         eaten by a dog, right after I was hit by the car as I crawled out of
         rizing runoff creek, my brother had pushed me into. The homework was
         on Samuels so she gave me an A for mimicking the style so well. Point
         is that perhaps the reason for the missing stats, is just as good for
         ICANN, as a column of numbers)

         --- On Tue, 4/14/09, George Kirikos <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

              From: George Kirikos <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx>
              Subject: [ga] Did a dog eat dot-cat's homework?
              To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
              Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 10:51 AM

              Hi folks,

              According to Section III.1.c.iv of the dot-cat registry
agreement:

             
http://www.icann.org/en/tlds/agreements/cat/cat-agreement-23sep05.htm

              "Monthly Reporting. Within 20 days following the end of each
       calendar
              month, Registry shall prepare and deliver to ICANN a report
providing
       such data
              and in the format specified in Appendix 4. ICANN may audit
       Registry's books
              and records relating to data contained in monthly reports from
time to
       time upon
              reasonable advance written notice, provided that such audits
shall not
       exceed
              one per quarter. Any such audit shall be at ICANN's cost,
unless
       such audit
              shall reflect a material discrepancy or discrepancies in the data
       provided by
              Registry. In the latter event, Registry shall reimburse ICANN for
all
       costs and
              expenses associated with such audit, which reimbursement shall be
paid
       together
              with the next Registry-Level Fee payment due following the date
of
       transmittal
              of the cost statement for such audit."

              These monthly reports can be found at:

              http://www.icann.org/en/tlds/monthly-reports/

              and in particular I draw your attention to the November and
December
       2008
              dot-cat reports at:

             
http://www.icann.org/en/tlds/monthly-reports/cat/puntcat-200811.pdf
             
http://www.icann.org/en/tlds/monthly-reports/cat/puntcat-200812.pdf

              which are archived at:

              http://www.loffs.com/images/dotcat/

              in the event the originals should change. According to Appendix 4
of the
              agreement, the registry operator must report the total number of
domains
       to
              ICANN (see field #3 in section 8) on a registrar by registrar
basis.

              Yet, for some unknown reason, the December 2008 report for
dot-cat is
       missing
              that column entirely! It's present in the November 2008
report (see
       page 7,
              where there are a grand total of 32833 domains across all
registrars).
       Did the
              dot-cat registry operator even check the numbers they were
submitting to
       ICANN?
              Did ICANN even bother to check what was submitted to them for
compliance
       with
              the registry operator's contractual obligations? Perhaps a
dog ate
       their
              homework? I trust that this apparent material discrepancy will
lead to
       an audit
              to determine the true numbers, and be reimbursed by the registry
       operator.

              This is a sign that ICANN is not even capable of managing the
existing
       gTLDs
              properly, let alone managing any expanded obligations if new
gTLDs were
       to be
              added to the root.

              Sincerely,

              George Kirikos
              http://www.leap.com/

       >
       Regards,

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>
Regards,

Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 284k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln
"YES WE CAN!"  Barack ( Berry ) Obama

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
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div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
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