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Re: [ga] Did a dog eat dot-cat's homework?

  • To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] Did a dog eat dot-cat's homework?
  • From: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:31:05 -0700 (PDT)

The metaphor Jeff is set to illustrate that columns and required forms do not 
always tell the whole story. That good auditing and reporting sometimes takes 
into account matters that do not fit into a box or into the assigned "homework" 
but upon simple inquiry the knowledge and target can be acquired elsewise. 
 
What would you say if cat-dogs reason for an empty column was due to the death 
of an employee assigned to such task or let us say an emergency in a maternity 
situation?
 
Life does not always fit into deadlines and checked boxes. Sometimes we must 
take a "leap of faith" that others are doing their job as well as is reasonable.
 
I see nothing sinister in this situation.

--- On Tue, 4/14/09, Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ga] Did a dog eat dot-cat's homework?
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 6:47 PM

Eric and all,

  Please help me to understand, my wee brain is specifically limited
or constrained to understand you point Eric.  So I'll venture a
WAG ( Wild ass guess ).  Is your point, however obtuse, as to a
suggested conclusion for ICANN to take your childhood experience
as a metaphor of guidance as to a particular standard of operation
and/or correction?

Hugh Dierker wrote:

>
> George, I believe I followed you. But I am afraid my computer only
  reflects the numbers. It does not provide me with how you reach your
  conclusion that this is malfeasance or evidence of incompetence.I am
  also looking to find a way that makes it material. Your guidance is
  appreciated. (I once told an English teacher that my homework was:
  eaten by a dog, right after I was hit by the car as I crawled out of
  rizing runoff creek, my brother had pushed me into. The homework was
  on Samuels so she gave me an A for mimicking the style so well. Point
  is that perhaps the reason for the missing stats, is just as good for
  ICANN, as a column of numbers)

  --- On Tue, 4/14/09, George Kirikos <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

       From: George Kirikos <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx>
       Subject: [ga] Did a dog eat dot-cat's homework?
       To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
       Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 10:51 AM


       Hi folks,

       According to Section III.1.c.iv of the dot-cat registry agreement:

       http://www.icann.org/en/tlds/agreements/cat/cat-agreement-23sep05.htm

       "Monthly Reporting. Within 20 days following the end of each
calendar
       month, Registry shall prepare and deliver to ICANN a report providing
such data
       and in the format specified in Appendix 4. ICANN may audit
Registry's books
       and records relating to data contained in monthly reports from time to
time upon
       reasonable advance written notice, provided that such audits shall not
exceed
       one per quarter. Any such audit shall be at ICANN's cost, unless
such audit
       shall reflect a material discrepancy or discrepancies in the data
provided by
       Registry. In the latter event, Registry shall reimburse ICANN for all
costs and
       expenses associated with such audit, which reimbursement shall be paid
together
       with the next Registry-Level Fee payment due following the date of
transmittal
       of the cost statement for such audit."

       These monthly reports can be found at:

       http://www.icann.org/en/tlds/monthly-reports/

       and in particular I draw your attention to the November and December
2008
       dot-cat reports at:

       http://www.icann.org/en/tlds/monthly-reports/cat/puntcat-200811.pdf
       http://www.icann.org/en/tlds/monthly-reports/cat/puntcat-200812.pdf

       which are archived at:

       http://www.loffs.com/images/dotcat/

       in the event the originals should change. According to Appendix 4 of the
       agreement, the registry operator must report the total number of domains
to
       ICANN (see field #3 in section 8) on a registrar by registrar basis.

       Yet, for some unknown reason, the December 2008 report for dot-cat is
missing
       that column entirely! It's present in the November 2008 report (see
page 7,
       where there are a grand total of 32833 domains across all registrars).
Did the
       dot-cat registry operator even check the numbers they were submitting to
ICANN?
       Did ICANN even bother to check what was submitted to them for compliance
with
       the registry operator's contractual obligations? Perhaps a dog ate
their
       homework? I trust that this apparent material discrepancy will lead to
an audit
       to determine the true numbers, and be reimbursed by the registry
operator.

       This is a sign that ICANN is not even capable of managing the existing
gTLDs
       properly, let alone managing any expanded obligations if new gTLDs were
to be
       added to the root.

       Sincerely,

       George Kirikos
       http://www.leap.com/

>
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