Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail Service -LionMail(tm) has been launched

[Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>]

Well you pretty much proved my point. Good luck.

--- On Mon, 4/6/09, John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail Service 
-LionMail(tm) has been launched
To: hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 9:54 PM



What are you talking about? Some INS bashers post an irrelevant link to an anal 
scanning tool that is pointed to
the wrong domain and somehow that translates into me not being "nice" to 
people? 
 
Dude, you and I are NOT in the same dimension. 
 
I stand by what I said. The poster ( JW) is an INS basher and a Baptista 
synchophant. That explains it all.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Hugh Dierker 
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; John Palmer 
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail Service 
-LionMail(tm) has been launched






John,
 
One does not correct PR problems by pointing out how right they are. When you 
first put this out there, you did nothing to aid anyone but INS sophisticates 
in the use of your concept. I was going to ask you to step in down a notch and 
make it user friendly, but I knew your response.
 
Then you use the name "tool" to describe what you think is a weakness. A 
weakness created by your lack of human compatability. Now what is the chance 
that a man as brilliant as you in your area,, is also brilliant in 
interpersonal relations. Hint-- Not likely.
The genius often comes not in knowing ones capabilities, but in knowing ones 
incapacities.
In securities and security they do not look at what is secure - but what is 
insecure.
 
If you are this blind to this glaring problem with your initiative how can 
anyone rely on the reliability and security of your networks?

--- On Mon, 4/6/09, John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail Service 
-LionMail(tm) has been launched
To: hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:47 PM





Hold on just a minute:
 
Someone points dnsstuff.com at the WRONG domain (Not the one that has anything 
to do with e-mail at all), and it comes up
with some lame complaints about some TTLs being outside of some range on the 
WRONG domain, and then when I point this
out, you jump all over me for correcting the error that Jeff Williams (a 
Baptista synchophant) makes?
 
And that makes me stubborn/condescending how?
 
I'll translate for you: All of those involved in this thread (running the bogus 
dnsstuff query, and then jumping on me when I
correct your facts) are interested in seeing the INS fail. 
 
OK, do I get to take a shot at you now? Lets see - Why are you using a yahoo 
account? What are you trying to hide?
Why should we trust you? Yahoo accounts (like GMAIL) are used by spammers and 
419 scammers...
 
Sound unfair? How do you think you sound to me?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Hugh Dierker 
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; John Palmer 
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail Service 
-LionMail(tm) has been launched






Dear John,
 
I got this gal who lives right off Pennsylvania ave in DC. She kind of is in 
the thick of things there. She has worked some sticky pol. campaigns. Bright as 
hell. Picked up a dual major BS in poly sci and pr, got a fancy Masters in PR 
and international law or something, all of it Cum laudee dah. Part of the Amer. 
Uni system there. She has a knack for making people like who they want to hate. 
Stays in the background, loves a darkhorse.
 
Point is. She don't need you but you need her. Your style of public relations 
can only lead to an abysmal martyrdom. I would not even wager on your chance in 
hell of making your program work with your condescending, everyone else is an 
idiot attitude.
 
Any further advice will cost ya. But I reckon your too stubborn to ask for it.

--- On Mon, 4/6/09, John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail Service 
-LionMail(tm) has been launched
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 3:53 PM

Nope - Lion-Mail.net is configured exactly as its supposed to be. The ignorant
tool
at dnsstuff.com doesn't know what its talking about.

Of course there are no MX records for Lion-Mail.net - you aren't supposed
to send
mail TO the Lion-Mail.net domain - E-Mail addresses for Lion-Mail are in the
.LION TLD. www.lion-mail.net is only a crutch portal for people who still
haven't configured their machines to use an INS resolver.

As for SPAM, LionMail has a zero tolerance for spammers and terminates accounts
of spammers
immediatly. We have outbound as well as inbound spam filters.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Stephane Bortzmeyer" <bortzmeyer@xxxxxx>; "ICANN
Policy staff" <policy-staff@xxxxxxxxx>; "ICANN SSAC"
<ssac@xxxxxxxxx>; "ICANN 
SSAC Dave Piscitello" <dave.piscitello@xxxxxxxxx>; "Steve
Crocker" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "icann legal"
<jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx>; "Paul Levins"
<paul.levins@xxxxxxxxx>; "DHS info" <info@xxxxxxxxxxx>; 
"FTC IP marketplace comments" <IPMarketPlace@xxxxxxx>;
"FTC OIG's office" <OIG@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail Service
-LionMail(tm) has been launched


>
> Stephane and all,
>
>  The problem with Gmail is that it is a spam perliforator
> extrodinair.  I suspect so is lion-mail.net.
> I do see that lion-mail.net is a DNS disaster. See:
>
http://member.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnslite.php?r=homepage&domain=lion-mail.net
>
> and
>
http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=lion-mail.net&token=12504cd81a964e092f54639635bf8019
>
>
>
> So yes Stephane, your point below is well taken!  >:)
> Perhaps ICANN SSAC can find the initiative and garner
> the effort to see to it that lion-mail.net get's it's act
> together properly.  As usual for me, I am not holding
> my breath in anticipation of such.
>
> That said, now wouldn't it be nice if nic.fr would be
> so kind and considerate to the world if it would get
> it's act together?  A novel idea I'm sure, and perhaps
> even to hope so is a near miracle.  But I have faith.  >:)
> See:
>
http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=nic.fr&token=13e078b6394942dd2a84269300c3f019
>
> Yet I do see that some progress has been made sense I last checked.
> However not quite there yet, eh?  >:)  Could it be that nic.fr is
> waiting
> for it's "Stimulus" check so as to be able to afford to make
the obvious
>
> minor corrections?  >:/
> Vive la France or let them eat cake?
>
> Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 07:19:15PM -0500,
>>  John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
>>  a message of 54 lines which said:
>>
>> > Check it out at http://lion-mail.net
>>
>> > LionMail is a low cost web based e-mail service
>>
>> Low-cost at $1/month while we have Gmail for free?
>>
>> But the best thing is the FAQ:
>>
>> > Most spammers use systems that do not know about the INS and
>> > therefore they will not be able to reach you.
>>
>> The dummy TLDs are not reachable therefore you will receive less
>> spam. That's something I never thought about :-)
>
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