Re: [ga] [Fwd: Re: Susan Crawford :::: a reason to give it anothergo??

[Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>]

Clearly there was jesting regarding friends and enemies. I generally have 
neither.
But after nearly a decade on this list, oldtimers do seem like old family 
friends.
 
My reference to Domainers and engineers was meant to be in the abstract of 
positions that are polar and result in personal arguments as opposed resolving 
issues by compromising and moving forward.
 
The only thing I see in this new admin are either well weathered politicians of 
academics.
(a bit on peppies preppies and ICANN evals in another post)
But at least they will see what is going on ---- What they do, well perhaps we 
should try to influence.
 
Although as we discussed, we have never seen ICANN actually influenced by 
public input.
But again we hope maybe the admin will.

--- On Wed, 3/25/09, Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ga] [Fwd: Re: Susan Crawford :::: a reason to give it anothergo??
To: hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: "Ga" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 3:07 PM


Eric and all, 
  I am not sure how your remarks are largely relevant to my forward 
of my comments and remarks to Susan's appointment to Barracks 
staff which I made to Seth and shared with the GA. 
  Further specific comments and remarks interspersed below. 
Hugh Dierker wrote: 
  



Friends and enemies,  (I kind of like that twist in this era of open dialog and 
getting along. Now I can really get up at a lunch and nonchalantly introduce as 
such; These are my friends Bill and Ike, and this is my good enemy Jeff) 
I find it difficult how you Eric could characterize me as you enemy. Obama 
through Crawford and her well educated, well experienced, extremely bright and 
caring people will bring more light onto/into ICANN. And I must say that if 
people came and looked at the releases and statements of ICANN in a frozen 
point in time, now, it would really look "on paper" like they are really trying 
to do an O' grass roots renovation. 
Susan is indeed very bright, but is and has been largely based in academics 
and as such out of touch with the real world as she has little recent real 
world experiance, and I don't count ICANN as real world. 
 Of course on closer reading they would see external Social (Danny) and 
Financial (George) audits that would make Madoff look cleaner than Vint or our 
Melbourne interloper ever did. 
  ICANN has been acting sense it's very beginning too much like a 
academic exercise, and too little like a non-profit.  That in an of itself 
does not and clearly has not lent itself to being a very positive organization. 
Social aspects of the Internet are important but are actually outside the 
scope of ICANN's responsibility and MOU mandate.   But this is only going to 
get bigger: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090326/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_online 
I largely, along with many of our members, agree with Baracks answers 
and remarks in his observations, but there are a few areas where we 
disagree. Now,,, if the GA were to organize and present united and divided 
position papers on relevant issues de jour, I dare say they would catch an ear, 
perhaps an eye and quite possibly someones attention. But as always Domain name 
marketeers and egotistical engineers will probably muck or muckrake it up.  
Position papers on what exactly?  As the Chair, you have made precious 
few if any suggestions.  Hence such papers as you suggest have not 
been officially forthcoming.  I also see again that you distaste for  
professional engineers remains, and as such impeads progress from 
within the GA.  Domain Names should have never been treated as 
a comodity.  As such that they were and still are, the impact on several 
less than advantagious fronts has been nearly disastorous, yet as a  
part time marketeer myself, I have no truk with ethical marketing, 
and/or marketeering. Certainly due to the abundant proof of other methodologies 
failures, new constituencies and ALAC, an organized GA is worth another (yes 
yet another) revisit. 
Perhaps.  But only if openess and transparency are absolute. 
--- On Mon, 3/23/09, Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
From: Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Subject: [ga] [Fwd: Re: [A2k] Obama Taps(?) Susan Crawford and Kevin Werbach] 
To: "Ga" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 6:56 PM 
  All,

  As an FYI

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Subject: Re: [A2k] Obama Taps(?) Susan Crawford and Kevin Werbach
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:55:33 -0700
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Seth and all,

  I wish I could joint you in your enthusiasm.  But unfortunately
I cannot.  Yet it is mildly good to see Susan move on and into
a better position that can have a significant impact.  ICANN
is still after 10 years part of which Susan served, is a mess
and getting worse.  So her impact while at ICANN was relatively
not apparent in a positive direction.

Seth Johnson wrote:

> (Some of the best news I've heard yet from this administration, though
> not quite official yet.  -- Seth)
>
> >
http://techdailydose.nationaljournal.com/2009/03/onewebday-founder-tapped-by-ob.php
>
> OneWebDay Founder Tapped By Obama
>
> Monday, March 23, 2009
>
> Internet law expert Susan Crawford has joined President Barack Obama's
> lineup of tech policy experts at the White House, according to several
> sources. She will likely hold the title of special assistant to the
> president for science, technology, and innovation policy, they said.
> Crawford, who was most recently a visiting professor at the University
> of Michigan and at Yale Law School, was tapped by Obama's transition
> team in November to co-chair its FCC review process with University of
> Pennsylvania professor Kevin Werbach. Her official administration
> appointment has not been formally announced. Crawford may be best
> known for her work with the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names
> and Numbers, the California-based nonprofit group that manages the
> Internet address system. She served on ICANN's board for three years
> beginning in December 2005. She also founded OneWebDay, a global Earth
> Day for the Internet that takes place every Sept. 22. Crawford, a Yale
> graduate, clerked for U.S. District Judge Raymond Dearie before
> joining Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering where she worked until the end of
> 2002.
>
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