Re: [ga] [Fwd: Re: [A2k] Call for Action: We need your comments toSupport Civil Society Participation in ICANN!]

["Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Eric and all,

  I personally happen to largely agree with your nicely brief
evaluation.
I can' yet really say that our members have the same thoughts, but
very well may.  I also think this patition is seriously ethically
challanged
for obvious and varried reasons.

  If you recall, it was originally Milton that floated this idea along
with
Bret as supporting, this idological Constituency several years ago.  It
was a non-starter then, and with our members it remains so.

Hugh Dierker wrote:

>
> I think Robins premise here is wrong. I do not truly believe there is
  any such reorganization in the works. I have yet to see anything that
  states even remotely; "the structure shall be altered, amended or
  changed". The master-oops scratch that,, I mean machinations that
  ICANN is contorting itself to seem more along the lines of make work
  for quasi beauracrats. Again I don't judge it. It may well be the
  right thing to be doing. It definately has some nice ringtone type
  Nomanklatura pr to it.

  --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  wrote:

       From: Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
       Subject: [ga] [Fwd: Re: [A2k] Call for Action: We need your
       comments to Support Civil Society Participation in ICANN!]
       To: "Ga" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
       Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 8:24 PM


       All,

         For your review and consideration.

       -------- Original Message --------
       Subject: Re: [A2k] Call for Action: We need your comments to Support
       Civil Society Participation in ICANN!
       Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:23:25 -0700
       From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
       Organization: IDNS and Spokesman for INEGroup
       To: Robin Gross <robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,Milton L Mueller
       <mueller@xxxxxxx>
       CC: a2k discuss list <a2k@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
       References: <0395387A-233E-42A4-AAAA-06122CB143D3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

       Robin and all,

         Thank you for the heads up.  I have copied to our members
       the NCSG's proposal.  It is my strong belief that our members
       will not support the proposal.  But I shall wait until I have their
       votes which should be know mid day tomorrow.  I believe
       this proposal will not receive our members support due primarily
       the following provision:
       "3. There are three classes of membership: 1) large organizations (which
       receive 4
       votes), small organizations (which receive 2 votes) and individuals (who
       receive 1
       vote)" ( From:
       http://gnso.icann.org/en/improvements/executive-summary-ncsg-proposal.pdf
       )
       Such a provision does not meet our standard and largely the democratic
       standard of "One person one vote", and is therefore not adequately
       representative of ALL stakeholders, and rather "Groups" and
       "Group
       Think" errors in judgments and decisions.  The users and other
       stakeholders especially Registrants cannot afford such errors in
       an economic situation such as we all are dealing with currently.

         The other reason I believe our members will not support this proposal
       is that Consensus without being measured cannot be honestly determined,
       and as such the NCSG's proposal seeks to effect decision making on a
       non measured basis which can be declared at any time, honestly or
       not.  Our members do not sell themselves short in such a manner and
       as such will not likely be accepting of this petition.

         Further still, as the GNSO which was a still birth our of the previous
       DNSO, remains irresponsive like the ALAC, ALAS'es and RALO's,
       to user and user/registrant open, transparent, and unfettered
       participation, and as such remains not representative of ANY and ALL
       stakeholders equally, that the MOU calls and called for without
       encumbrance and will not likely meet with our members approval.
       But we shall see how our vote goes.

       Robin Gross wrote:

       > --
       > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
       > Call for Action: We need your comments to Support Civil Society
       > Participation in ICANN!
       >
       > ICANN is in the midst of a significant reform of its policy-making
       > body, the Generic Name Supporting Organization (GNSO).
       >
       > The intellectual property rights and big business interests have
       > historically dominated policy making at ICANN, with trademarks
       > trumping free expression rights and privacy rights at every turn.
       > Now is our opportunity to bring a more balanced approach into ICANN
       > policy making.
       >
       > Following the recommendations provided by the London School of
       > Economics, the ICANN Board is set to increase the participation of
       > civil society, and approve a charter for a new, more influential
       > Noncommercial Stakeholders Group.  ICANNâ??s Noncommercial Users
       > Constituency (NCUC) has recently submitted a Charter Proposal for the
       > new Noncommercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG).  Links to the Charter
       > Proposal, an Executive Summary and Organization Chart are at the end
       > of this message.
       >
       > How can you help support civil society participation in ICANN policy
       > making?
       >
       > ICANN is soliciting comments on the NCSG Charter Proposal.  Comments
       > are due by April 15, 2009 and can be submitted to: sg-petitions-
       > charters@xxxxxxxxx.  Below are some reasons you can include in your
       > comments.
       >
       > ****
       >
       > Subject: Approve the NCSG Charter Proposal submitted by NCUC
       >
       > Dear ICANN Board:
       >
       > Please support the NCSG Charter Proposal submitted by the
       > Noncommercial User Constituency.
       >
       > Why should the ICANN Board support the proposal?
       >
       > Most importantly, the proposal integrates all policy deliberation and
       > voting of the NCSG into a unified structure. By doing so, the
       > proposed structure:
       >
       > â?¢    Ensures that whoever represents noncommercial stakeholders on
       > the GNSO Council has support across all constituencies.
       > â?¢    Supports the formation of consensus positions on policy taken by
       > the NCSG, not allowing individual constituencies to control specific
       > GNSO Council seats and votes.
       > â?¢    Enhances representation by lowering barriers to participation
       > and the formation of constituencies, allowing a far more diverse set
       > of interests and coalitions to easily form.
       >
       > ****
       >
       > Show your support for civil society in ICANN policy making, submit
       > your comments today!
       >
       > Thank you,
       >
       > Robin Gross, Chair
       > Noncommercial Users Constituency
       >
       > Executive Summary of NCSG Charter Proposal: http://gnso.icann.org/en/
       > improvements/executive-summary-ncsg-proposal.pdf
       >
       > NCSG Petition-Charter:
       > http://gnso.icann.org/en/improvements/ncsg-petition-charter.pdf
       >
       > NCSG Organization Chart:
       > http://gnso.icann.org/en/improvements/ncsg-organization-chart.pdf
       >
       > IP JUSTICE
       > Robin Gross, Executive Director
       > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA  94117  USA
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       >
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