Re: [ga] [Fwd: Re: [At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Still more folk complainingaboutGoDaddy Transfer Policy Violations]

["Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Karl and all,

  Indeed evidence is necessary, and it has over time been provided
publicly over and over again.  Still, GoDaddy continues to be
less than forthcoming in correcting their practices, and ICANN
fails to support users/registrants that have been abused in such a
manner.

"Karl E. Peters" wrote:

> Jeffrey,    Under the assumption that Go-Daddy is indeed playing with
> SLDs as you describe, your points are well taken. The option so
> heavily promoted when signing for an SLD with them, "private
> registrations" (though I think it should not be allowed, personally)
> requires that some legal authority be allowed to look at their books
> and those of their associated private registration company to see who
> really paid for those registration, if anyone, and if they are
> legitimately "owned" by real people or cleverly removed from the
> general market to extract a higher price through forced negotiation
> with an unpublished and only presumably real registrant.    In short,
> there may be a lot one could string up Go-Daddy for, not to even
> mention their trashy advertisements, but there should be a vehicle to
> acquire real proof before condemning them publicly on
> assumptions.-Karl E. Peters, PresidentTop Level Domain Association,
> Inc.
>
>      -------- Original Message --------
>      Subject: [ga] [Fwd: Re: [At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Still more
>      folk
>      complainingabout GoDaddy Transfer Policy Violations]
>      From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>      Date: Sat, February 07, 2009 10:19 pm
>      To: Ga <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>      All,
>
>      As an FYI and a positive direction or solution.
>
>      -------- Original Message --------
>      Subject: Re: [At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Still more folk
>      complainingabout
>      GoDaddy Transfer Policy Violations
>      Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:34:57 -0800
>      From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>      Organization: IDNS and Spokesman for INEGroup
>      To: At-Large Worldwide
>      <at-large@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,FTC OIG's
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>      <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>,ICANN Policy
>      staff <policy-staff@xxxxxxxxx>,Paul Levins
>      <paul.levins@xxxxxxxxx>,Michele Neylon
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>      CC: "dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx" <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>,NA
>      Discuss
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>      Ruiz <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>,"ICANN Admin supp. Manager Karen
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>      Vernon
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>      <twomey@xxxxxxxxx>,Peter
>      Dengate Thrush <barrister@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,"Karl E. Peters"
>      <kpeters@xxxxxxxxxxx>,Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
>      BCC: "Jacqueline A. Morris" <jam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,John
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>      Michele and all,
>
>      My response interspersed below.
>
>      Michele Neylon :: Blacknight wrote:
>
>      > Cheryl / Danny
>      >
>      > GoDaddy is the biggest ICANN registrar
>
>      Indeed it is.
>
>      >
>      >
>      > How likely is it that ICANN will take any action against
>      them?
>
>      Not likely as the revenues that ICANN receives from GoDaddy
>      are
>      the most of any registrar. And the way and manner in which
>      ICANN
>      burns $$ they need GoDaddy too badly. Too big to fail, if
>      you will...
>      Sound/read familiar?
>
>      >
>      >
>      > What options are open to ICANN to take against them?
>
>      Several. But the best would be to de-accredit GoDaddy. A
>      VERY unlikely action by ICANN. Next would be to find
>      a white knight to come in and take over GoDaddy after
>      requiring
>      the owners and Sr. Executives of GoDaddy to resign
>      immediately
>      or be dis-accredited.
>
>      >
>      >
>      > The inter-registrar transfer policy isn't part of the RAA,
>      is it?
>
>      No, but the new proposed RAA has some provisions dealing
>      with
>      inter-registrar transfer. My questions are: what does ICANN
>      propose
>      to do for all those registrants that have been damaged by
>      GoDaddy's
>      miss-behavior? Will ICANN be financially compensating these
>      registrants adequately, if at all?
>
>      >
>      >
>      > Regards
>      >
>      > Michele
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