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RE: [ga] [Fwd: Re: [At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Still more folk complainingabout GoDaddy Transfer Policy Violations]

  • To: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [ga] [Fwd: Re: [At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Still more folk complainingabout GoDaddy Transfer Policy Violations]
  • From: "Karl E. Peters" <tlda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:14:24 -0700

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font-size:10pt;"><div>Jeffrey,</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Under the assumption that Go-Daddy is indeed 
playing with SLDs as you describe, your points are well taken. The option so 
heavily promoted when signing for an SLD with them, "private registrations" 
(though I think it should not be allowed, personally) requires that some legal 
authority be allowed to look at their books and those of their associated 
private registration company to see who really paid for those registration, if 
anyone, and if they are legitimately "owned" by real people or cleverly removed 
from the general market to extract a higher price through forced negotiation 
with an unpublished and only presumably real registrant.</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;In short, there may be a lot one could string up 
Go-Daddy for, not to even mention their trashy advertisements, but there should 
be a vehicle to acquire real proof before condemning them publicly on 
assumptions.</div>
<div>-Karl E. Peters, President</div>
<div>Top Level Domain Association, Inc.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
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<div   >-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject: [ga] [Fwd: Re: 
[At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Still more folk<BR>complainingabout GoDaddy Transfer 
Policy Violations]<BR>From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" 
&lt;jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Date: Sat, February 07, 2009 10:19 pm<BR>To: 
Ga &lt;ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR><BR><BR>All,<BR><BR>As an FYI and a positive 
direction or solution.<BR><BR>-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject: 
Re: [At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Still more folk complainingabout<BR>GoDaddy 
Transfer Policy Violations<BR>Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:34:57 -0800<BR>From: 
"Jeffrey A. Williams" &lt;jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Organization: IDNS and 
Spokesman for INEGroup<BR>To: At-Large Worldwide 
&lt;at-large@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;,FTC OIG's<BR>office 
&lt;OIG@xxxxxxx&gt;,icann board &lt;icann-board@xxxxxxxxx&gt;,ICANN 
Policy<BR>staff &lt;policy-staff@xxxxxxxxx&gt;,Paul 
Levins<BR>&lt;paul.levins@xxxxxxxxx&gt;,Michele Neylon 
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Peters"<BR>&lt;kpeters@xxxxxxxxxxx&gt;,Hugh Dierker 
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L<BR>&lt;johnl@xxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>References:<BR>&lt;349640.11357.qm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;,&lt;904113ab0901292020s348b53e2k7973f166f9aa01c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>&lt;D175CB0A04FE634587DA0987F3C4231021F72234EF@iddawg.blacknight.local&gt;<BR><BR>Michele
 and all,<BR><BR>My response interspersed below.<BR><BR>Michele Neylon :: 
Blacknight wrote:<BR><BR>&gt; Cheryl / Danny<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; GoDaddy is the 
biggest ICANN registrar<BR><BR>Indeed it is.<BR><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; How 
likely is it that ICANN will take any action against them?<BR><BR>Not likely as 
the revenues that ICANN receives from GoDaddy are<BR>the most of any registrar. 
And the way and manner in which ICANN<BR>burns $$ they need GoDaddy too badly. 
Too big to fail, if you will...<BR>Sound/read 
familiar?<BR><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; What options are open to ICANN to take 
against them?<BR><BR>Several. But the best would be to de-accredit GoDaddy. 
A<BR>VERY unlikely action by ICANN. Next would be to find<BR>a white knight to 
come in and take over GoDaddy after requiring<BR>the owners and Sr. Executives 
of GoDaddy to resign immediately<BR>or be 
dis-accredited.<BR><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; The inter-registrar transfer policy 
isn't part of the RAA, is it?<BR><BR>No, but the new proposed RAA has some 
provisions dealing with<BR>inter-registrar transfer. My questions are: what 
does ICANN propose<BR>to do for all those registrants that have been damaged by 
GoDaddy's<BR>miss-behavior? Will ICANN be financially compensating 
these<BR>registrants adequately, if at all?<BR><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
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