Re: [ga] Re: [At-Large] Network Solutions Under Large Scale DDoS Attack

[Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>]

Sorry Joe,
 
I guess I was unclear. My question is this: When this inevitable failure occurs 
where will we go to get what we want?

--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: [At-Large] Network Solutions Under Large Scale DDoS Attack
To: hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: "At-Large Worldwide" <at-large@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Ga" 
<ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 6:43 AM





On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:






So then following out your so wisened scenario; What would we migrate to then?
Or would we just go for walks, read books and watch Network TV shows?

To prevent resolution failure you need name servers having host names from 
zones NOT .com. And this only works for NON .com domains.  If the .com servers 
are successfully attacked then all of .com is effected.

The problem is .com is so pervasive in its popularity and so many name server 
hosts use .com in their host names that this sort of attack is inevitable.

regards
joe baptista

 







--- On Sat, 1/24/09, Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ga] Re: [At-Large] Network Solutions Under Large Scale DDoS Attack
To: "At-Large Worldwide" <at-large@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Ga" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 6:39 PM








On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 1:56 PM, John R. Levine <johnl@xxxxxxxx> wrote:



Hate to say it folks - but I told you so a long time ago this was going to
happen.  If you want to attack the Internet - you don't attack the root
servers - you attack .com name space.  Once .com name space is offline a lot
of the net just twinkles out of existence.

Network Solutions is not Verisign, and hasn't been for about a decade.

Perhaps you might want to update your bookmarks or something.

Don't bother telling me that - email the journalist who wrote the article.

The issue here is that a successful attack against the .com servers would take 
out most of the internet since the technical infrastructure is so heavily 
dependent on the the .com zone.  Any dummy should understand that.

It's irrelevant who runs the .com zone - the problem here is its popularity as 
a tld label also makes it vulnerable to attack because so many name space 
objects - ns hosts - are technically dependent on the zone.

The day .com goes off line - and this day is inevitable - most of the internet 
will simply disappear for so many folks.  I look forward to that day - will 
give me an excuse to take the day off and enjoy an Internet free day..

regards
joe baptista

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