Re: [ga] ICANN's Fellowship Program

["Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Eric and all,

  Yes it is a trip in more than one way!  >:)  For instance, take
a close look at
http://www.icann.org/en/fellowships/terms-and-conditions.htm
As stated in this link, due to my companies personal security
requirements
and our signed agreements with the State Department, I could not
provide the information the ICANN travel folks seem to require given
ICANN's own documented and known lack of proper security processes
and proceedures/practices.  >:(  This, my situation is disappointing
as I was all ready to jump all over your suggestion personally in
applying for an ICANN fellowship to offset any travel costs that
may/would ensue in attending certain ICANN meetings/junkets.

  This said, it still seems that your original suggestion Eric is a good

idea for some stakeholders whom feel or are disenfranchised and/or
under-recognized.

Hugh Dierker wrote:

>
> I don't know about motivations or conspiracies. But thissy here page is a
  trip;http://www.icann.org/en/fellowships/

  --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Karl E. Peters <tlda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

       From: Karl E. Peters <tlda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
       Subject: RE: [ga] ICANN's Fellowship Program
       To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
       Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 12:17 PM

       Perhaps these fellowships are provided to those who most aggressively 
support ICANN
       (send them money) to hand out to their favorite people as perks. That 
they do
       nothing is part of the reward to ICANN because it seems their ideal 
constituents is
       the silent one. This would be consistent with other ICANN models...-Karl 
E. Peters

            -------- Original Message --------
            Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN's Fellowship Program
            From: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
            Date: Tue, January 06, 2009 2:19 pm
            To: Erick Iriarte Ahon <faia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, 
dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx
            Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx


            Well let us get on it and submit some applications from right here. 
Let us
            do it open and transparently. I say we just pick the last twenty 
posters,
            and fill out the applications right here on line. No, let us pick 
the last
            100. I cannot see the harm. If we do this and they still pick from 
who
            knows where, then the issue is resolved as one of a fraudulent
            representation to the stakeholders.

            --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

                 From: Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>
                 Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN's Fellowship Program
                 To: "Erick Iriarte Ahon" <faia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                 Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
                 Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 7:54 AM


                 Hello Erick,

                 It doesn't matter for whom ICANN creates a fellowship program 
if fellowship
                 recipients thereafter fail to interact with the rest of the 
ICANN community and
                 wind up contributing nothing to the general dialogue.

                 I see no value in spending money on those that don't 
contribute while other
                 recognized strong contributors on policy matters within the 
constituencies are
                 currently being denied travel funds.

                 Danny



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