Re: SV: [governance] Re: [ga] Re: [ga] ICANN presentsmisleadingblackline

["Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Karl and all,

  Thanks for your response.  I get the time by managing my time
wisely, closely, and diligently.  It's difficult at times, but certainly

doable, and for me in my position, necessary.

  I do agree that ICANN is heading down the wrong path and seemingly
at times racing to the bottom as well as engendering a non-competitive
closed market as well as a far less than safe, and ease of use market
in the Name Space.  This is of course mainly due to a poor understanding

of the technical aspects which make up what we all have for decades now
known as the "Internet".  Yet there are also social complexities that
are
too often juxtaposed as reasons/excuses for some, but not all of ICANN's

actions and policy decisions which have lead to significant TLD
collisions,
and will likely lead to more in the near future given ICANN's
announcement
of the introduction opening up the TLD name space.  IPv6 will of course
play a huge role in the success or lack there of in that policy decision
as
IPv4 address space is nearly exhausted.  But non technical types do not,

and seemingly refuse to recognize the significance as they are too
focused
on social issues to bother.  That's unfortunate, but a symptom of how
mass ignorance creates larger problems in many fields of endeavor, not
just IT.  Such is also a product of ICANN's significant miss management
of the complexities of the MOU.  As such, the legacy Internet will
suffer
further government intervention which ICANN doesn't desire, but has
already helped to engender despite itself.  An interesting dilemma...

  And so, the saga continues...

"Karl E. Peters" wrote:

> Mr. Williams,    I don't know where you get the time to monitor and
> respond to so much in so many places, but thanks.    Were it the goal,
> still, to change ICANN, you are absolutely right. It is a foregone
> conclusion that their intent will remain the same. That does not mean
> that anyone will necessarily care about their intent in the future,
> though, when they leave the protection of mother government and try to
> do things on their own popularity.    I believe they are changing the
> one thing we need them to change to make them irrelevant in the
> future, and that is to step out from under the eaves of the government
> roof and feel the rain on their heads for perhaps the first time;
> people just walking away from them for greener pastures. They can make
> all the determinations and policies they wish with their root and some
> people, the less informed, will continue to play their game to get a
> new TLD on the internet. Most, though, when the fog clears, will see a
> completely viable alternative to the master / slave relationship ICANN
> holds with its TLD registrants. The other roots will be ready to
> handle them and help them sell their SLDs and provide quite ample
> technicals to sustain them as the market edges that way.    Reason has
> already been tried... and failed with ICANN. We gave it our best
> efforts now for years. It is time to leave them behind to manage their
> empire while it lasts while we build a new multi-root system that
> prevents collisions and allow freedom of choice on the root level and
> then, freedom of choice for the end user to choose the root best
> suited for them. ICANN is like the proverbial man trying to grasp al
> the sand in one hand, and fearing loss, grip tighter and tighter,
> forcing more and more of the sand from their ever smaller and
> strangling grasp.    The day is fast approaching when the internet can
> be free again, and work!Sincerely yours,Karl E. Peters,
> PresidentTop-Level Domain Association, Inc.
>
>      -------- Original Message --------
>      Subject: Re: SV: [governance] Re: [ga] Re: [ga] ICANN
>      presents
>      misleadingblackline
>      From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>      Date: Sun, December 07, 2008 7:15 pm
>      To: governance@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Karl E. Peters"
>      <kpeters@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>      Cc: "Dr. Joe Baptista" <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>      Karl and all,
>
>      Good answer Karl. Unfortunately, as you all too well know,
>      ICANN
>      has decidedly for year now been against other root
>      structures and has
>      done whatever it could, even to the point of hijacking
>      existing TLD's
>      already up an running on other root structures ( .BIZ as
>      well known
>      and well documented example) and additionally demonstrated
>      as
>      well as articulated that as a public service company, is
>      unwilling to
>      share or inter operate with any other root structures. As
>      such, it is
>      or has become clear, and in my as well as your opinion that
>      some
>      governmental pressure or perhaps complement is needed to
>      impress
>      upon ICANN the error in it's various ways....
>
>      "Karl E. Peters" wrote:
>
>      > (I took the liberty of joining your list discussion as I
>      feel you are
>      > taking on very important issues and I would like to be
>      available to
>      > you to address some of these issues from the TLDA
>      perspective. -Karl
>      > E.. Peters) Dear Mr. Kleinwachter, Thank you first of all,
>      for your
>      > response and question. In my opinion, though others may
>      vary, the
>      > greatest good to come from the changes I outlined below
>      (still
>      > attached) is a relaxation in the minds of many ISPs and
>      individual end
>      > users that they must carry the "official" line, the ICANN
>      root or
>      > perhaps some other government's root. This opens up the
>      possibility of
>      > many more and varied TLDs from which to choose, or even
>      initiate, for
>      > their particular interests or needs. With such an opening,
>      investors
>      > that have been standing on the sideline with regard to
>      other roots and
>      > TLDs will be secure in adding infrastructure to the "up
>      and coming"
>      > root systems that offer the most "Inclusive NameSpace" to
>      handle more
>      > and more traffic. The greater traffic will enable and
>      encourage
>      > further investment in a diverse and free internet
>      community. It
>      > becomes a self-perpetuating growth environment where
>      everyone will
>      > gain. Already, there is a very strong registrar system
>      tested and
>      > ready to go online for handling the move into the new
>      frontier. (Other
>      > registrars wishing to join the move are welcomed, and with
>      far fewer
>      > strings than now exist under ICANN.) There has not
>      generally been
>      > any technical lacking on the part of the non-governmental
>      roots, just
>      > a lack of traffic and thereby, long-term investment needed
>      to keep
>      > them growing with the internet itself. When there is no
>      longer the
>      > perception that there is one superior root and many
>      pretenders (many
>      > users don't even know there is more than one!!!), but
>      rather many
>      > roots from which to choose, either on the ISP level or the
>      end-user
>      > level, known and interested investors will provide the
>      funds to spread
>      > the word and educate the public to their choices. As you
>      must know,
>      > but few end users know, you can change your DNS choices on
>      the
>      > personal computer level and not be dependant on your ISP's
>      foresight.
>      > Much like a battle between an original cable TV carrier in
>      an area and
>      > an upstart that carries more channels for the same price,
>      the people
>      > may not immediately see a need for the additional
>      channels, but when
>      > they cost no more, why not give them a try. Generally
>      speaking, once
>      > people get used to having more, they will always demand
>      it.
>      > Incidentally, the TLDA, Inc. has no plan to operate a new
>      root, but
>      > rather to foster a more conducive atmosphere for the
>      operation of the
>      > TLD operators that make up our body and for whom we
>      advocate. We would
>      > perform more as an internet "Chamber of Commerce" than as
>      a competing
>      > business. As part of our advocacy, though, we would
>      require high
>      > operational and ethical standards for those wishing to be
>      listed in
>      > our recommended list and then aggressively promote the
>      entire industry
>      > around the world. Thank you again for the opportunity to
>      address
>      > your question. Please feel free to contact me anytime with
>      further
>      > thoughts or concerns at kpeters@tldainc..orgor my
>      telephone (912)
>      > 638-1638. Ich Spreche ein bichen Deutsch, aber nicht gut.
>      (I studied
>      > one year when I was 15!) Mandarin Chinese is my best
>      second language.
>      > I used to write the English language news for Shanghai TV
>      > station. Karl E. Peters, PresidentTop Level Domain
>      Association,
>      > Inc.
>
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