Re: [ga] Re: TLD-WG 4 New TLDs (Forward from Karl)

["Joe Baptista" <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 3:19 AM, Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Dr. Joe and all,
>
>  I agree that there is certainly a problem here that should be
> addressed.
> ICANN is indeed seemingly being disinterested for whatever actual
> reason.
>
>  Perhaps you should make the proper authorities in the US of this
> Joe?  Your call of course...


If ICANN is a responsible organization it should be capable of exercising
that judgment call.

I won't be associated with these crooks but I have no problems with ICANN
being associated with them.  I personally feel ICANN association with
fraudsters and crooks to be in keeping with what it does today.  Under
icanns administration many fraudsters registries have been allowed to
operate and screw the general public. The HEX is no different.  This fraud
looks good on icann.

regards
joe baptista


>
> Joe Baptista wrote:
>
> > I think I should bring this to the attention of icann.  Even though
> > icann continues it's quite support of the HEX - i.e.
> >
> > http://www.unifiedroot.com/
> >
> > and of course
> >
> > http://www.inaic.com/index.php?p=tld-registrars
> >
> > in both cases the use (or misuse) of the icann/iana trademarks
> > continues.
> >
> > In my opinion icann is free to associate itself with known criminals
> > and fraudsters - i choose not to and have made it clear to the
> > fraudsters that they remove all tlds associated with me from their
> > respective whois's.
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Joe Baptista
> > <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >      My apologies.  Posted to wrong lists.  Cross posting to
> >      announce.  I wanted to send this to the public list since
> >      its more a question of policy then technical criteria - only
> >      in that the whois rfc is violated.  This is in fact a matter
> >      of fraud prevention - i.e. private registrations - which is
> >      fraud perpetuated by both parties.
> >
> >      They are doing it only to protect their TLD holders from the
> >      truth.  There are some TLD holders here on the public list -
> >      and the tld-wg who are members because they were contacted
> >      by me.  Good people who don't want to be associated with
> >      frauds who have used the communities root system to
> >      perpetuate their fraud.
> >
> >      Accountability gentlemen - accountability is the key and
> >      making amends.
> >
> >      Incidentally this is notice to the parties at the
> >      public-dash-root-inaic and the unifiedroot to remove me from
> >      their whois servers.  I don't want to be associated
> >      publically with you people.  That applies to herman xennt,
> >      martijn burger, marty van veluw, erik seeboldt, henk smit,
> >      chris koers, andre boekhoudt, rene or van der voort - which
> >      includes any system under their control now and in the
> >      past.  so please get my personal information out of your
> >      whois A.S.A.P.
> >
> >      As a TLD holder I have no interest in being associated with
> >      fraudsters.
> >
> >      cheers
> >      joe baptista
> >
> >      On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Joe Baptista
> >      <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >           Its time to put a stop to these registrations.
> >
> >
> >           New Public TLD (pTLD): .LEGAL registered though
> >           UN1D ( http://un1d.com )
> >           New Corporate TLD (cTLD): .CCC registered though
> >           UN1D ( http://un1d.com )
> >           New Public TLD (pTLD): .AUSSIE registered though
> >           UN1D ( http://un1d.com )
> >           New Public TLD (pTLD): .EXPERT registered though
> >           UN1D ( http://un1d.com )Its time to put stop to
> >           this nonsense.  Herman better start following the
> >           rules.
> >
> >           See attached whois transcripts for all above
> >           mentioned TLDs.
> >
> >           The RFCs require minimum contact data.  Private
> >           registrations don't count and are a direct
> >           violation of the whois rfcs.  Proper contact data
> >           must be provided.  Also TLDs can not be dormant.
> >           A root server must meet minimum standards in
> >           providing contact data and the TLD must be
> >           operational with a minimum of 3 SLDs.  If Herman
> >           can't meet that then he is in violation of the
> >           TLDA bylaws placing his TLDs and membership in
> >           jeopardy.
> >
> >           This of course does not discount the fact Herman
> >           has been selling TLDs with third parties without
> >           authority.  Right Chris?  Chris Koers is now
> >           litigating on behalf of Henk Smit.
> >
> >           The criminality behind all of this Herman has
> >           gotten himself involved in simply amazes me. I'm
> >           very impressed.  We have Chris Koers - big time
> >           criminal lawyer - according to Burger.  And thats
> >           not a criminal lawyer in the legal sense but a
> >           lawyer who is a criminal.  No longer allowed to
> >           practice - but he has friends.
> >
> >           Of course Chris pales in comparison to Rene
> >           Rijntjes and Rob van de Voort recently
> >           investigated for tax evasion.  Being two of the
> >           richest men in the Netherlands I understand they
> >           have done well at keeping the tax department at
> >           bay.  Still one wonders what type of people Herman
> >           has gotten himself involved in.  Marty van Veluw
> >           and Herman are next on the list of people to be
> >           investigated by the same department that
> >           investigated Rijntjes and van de Voort.
> >
> >           In conclusion because of all this nonsense going
> >           on over there and the questionable conduct we see
> >           it is time for us to ask for better standards of
> >           Herman.
> >
> >           regards
> >           joe
> >
> >           p.s. same principle applies to the Unified Root.
> >
> >           p.s.s. stop the fraud.  This whois nonsense is an
> >           embarrassment to them and Herman.
> >
> >
> >           whois LEGAL
> >           Public TLD (pTLD): .LEGAL
> >                TLD Status: Active
> >                TLD Register Date: 17-07-2008
> >                TLD Updated: 18-07-2008
> >
> >
> >
> >                TLD Expire Date: 17-07-2009
> >                Preferred Domain Name Registry:  (
> http://public-root.net/dormant/ )
> >
> >           *** PRIVATE REGISTRATION ***
> >           *** PRIVATE REGISTRATION ***
> >
> >
> >
> >           *** PRIVATE REGISTRATION ***
> >
> >           TLD Servers:
> >                TLD Server1: tld1.public-root.net - IPV4: 84.22.100.6
> >
> >
> >                TLD Server2: tld2.public-root.net - IPV4: 84.22.106.31
> >
> >                TLD Server3: tld3.public-root.net - IPV4: 199.5.156.122
> >
> >           By submitting a Global TLD WHOIS query you agree to use this
> data only for lawful purposes. Under no circumstances will you use this data
> to: (1) Allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass
> unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail, telephone,
> or facsimile; or: (2) Enable high volume, automated, electronic processes
> against the INAIC or its data systems and networks. The compilation,
> repackaging, dissemination or other use of this data is expressly prohibited
> without the prior written consent of the INAIC. The INAIC reserves the right
> to revoke access to the Global TLD WHOIS Database in its sole discretion,
> including without limitation, for excessive querying of the Global TLD WHOIS
> Database or for failure to otherwise abide by this policy.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >           TLD Registrants are responsible for the information maintained
> in the directory services database.The INAIC does not guarantee the accuracy
> of the information maintained in the Global TLD WHOIS Database.
> >           whois CCC
> >
> >
> >
> >           Public TLD (pTLD): .CCC
> >                TLD Status: Active
> >                TLD Register Date: 20-06-2008
> >                TLD Updated: 23-06-2008
> >                TLD Expire Date: 26-07-2008
> >                Preferred Domain Name Registry:  (
> http://public-root.net/dormant/ )
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >           *** PRIVATE REGISTRATION ***
> >           *** PRIVATE REGISTRATION ***
> >           *** PRIVATE REGISTRATION ***
> >
> >           TLD Servers:
> >                TLD Server1: tld1.public-root.net - IPV4: 84.22.100.6
> >
> >
> >
> >                TLD Server2: tld2.public-root.net - IPV4: 84.22.106.31
> >                TLD Server3: tld3.public-root.net - IPV4: 199.5.156.122
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >           By submitting a Global TLD WHOIS query you agree to use this
> data only for lawful purposes. Under no circumstances will you use this data
> to: (1) Allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass
> unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail, telephone,
> or facsimile; or: (2) Enable high volume, automated, electronic processes
> against the INAIC or its data systems and networks. The compilation,
> repackaging, dissemination or other use of this data is expressly prohibited
> without the prior written consent of the INAIC. The INAIC reserves the right
> to revoke access to the Global TLD WHOIS Database in its sole discretion,
> including without limitation, for excessive querying of the Global TLD WHOIS
> Database or for failure to otherwise abide by this policy.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >           TLD Registrants are responsible for the information maintained
> in the directory services database.The INAIC does not guarantee the accuracy
> of the information maintained in the Global TLD WHOIS Database.
> >           whois AUSSIE
> >
> >
> >
> >           Public TLD (pTLD): .AUSSIE
> >                TLD Status: Active
> >                TLD Register Date: 17-07-2008
> >                TLD Updated: 18-07-2008
> >                TLD Expire Date: 17-07-2009
> >                Preferred Domain Name Registry:  (
> http://public-root.net/dormant/ )
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >           *** PRIVATE REGISTRATION ***
> >           *** PRIVATE REGISTRATION ***
> >           *** PRIVATE REGISTRATION ***
> >
> >           TLD Servers:
> >                TLD Server1: tld1.public-root.net - IPV4: 84.22.100.6
> >
> >
> >
> >                TLD Server2: tld2.public-root.net - IPV4: 84.22.106.31
> >                TLD Server3: tld3.public-root.net - IPV4: 199.5.156.122
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >           By submitting a Global TLD WHOIS query you agree to use this
> data only for lawful purposes. Under no circumstances will you use this data
> to: (1) Allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass
> unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail, telephone,
> or facsimile; or: (2) Enable high volume, automated, electronic processes
> against the INAIC or its data systems and networks. The compilation,
> repackaging, dissemination or other use of this data is expressly prohibited
> without the prior written consent of the INAIC. The INAIC reserves the right
> to revoke access to the Global TLD WHOIS Database in its sole discretion,
> including without limitation, for excessive querying of the Global TLD WHOIS
> Database or for failure to otherwise abide by this policy.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >           TLD Registrants are responsible for the information maintained
> in the directory services database.The INAIC does not guarantee the accuracy
> of the information maintained in the Global TLD WHOIS Database.
> >           whois EXPERT
> >
> >
> >
> >           Public TLD (pTLD): .EXPERT
> >                TLD Status: Active
> >                TLD Register Date: 17-07-2008
> >                TLD Updated: 18-07-2008
> >                TLD Expire Date: 17-07-2009
> >                Preferred Domain Name Registry:  (
> http://public-root.net/dormant/ )
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >           *** PRIVATE REGISTRATION ***
> >           *** PRIVATE REGISTRATION ***
> >           *** PRIVATE REGISTRATION ***
> >
> >           TLD Servers:
> >                TLD Server1: tld1.public-root.net - IPV4: 84.22.100.6
> >
> >
> >
> >                TLD Server2: tld2.public-root.net - IPV4: 84.22.106.31
> >                TLD Server3: tld3.public-root.net - IPV4: 199.5.156.122
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >           By submitting a Global TLD WHOIS query you agree to use this
> data only for lawful purposes. Under no circumstances will you use this data
> to: (1) Allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass
> unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail, telephone,
> or facsimile; or: (2) Enable high volume, automated, electronic processes
> against the INAIC or its data systems and networks. The compilation,
> repackaging, dissemination or other use of this data is expressly prohibited
> without the prior written consent of the INAIC. The INAIC reserves the right
> to revoke access to the Global TLD WHOIS Database in its sole discretion,
> including without limitation, for excessive querying of the Global TLD WHOIS
> Database or for failure to otherwise abide by this policy.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >           TLD Registrants are responsible for the information maintained
> in the directory services database.The INAIC does not guarantee the accuracy
> of the information maintained in the Global TLD WHOIS Database.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >           On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Karl Peters -
> >           TLDA <tlda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >                Dear TLD-News subscriber,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                Due to the continuous growth of the
> >                Internet, the following TLDs where added
> >                to the Inclusive Name Space.
> >
> >
> >
> >                _
> >                _____________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                New Public TLD (pTLD): .LEGAL registered
> >                though UN1D ( http://un1d.com )
> >
> >
> >
> >                New Corporate TLD (cTLD): .CCC
> >                registered though UN1D ( http://un1d.com
> >                )
> >
> >
> >
> >                New Public TLD (pTLD): .AUSSIE
> >                registered though UN1D ( http://un1d.com
> >                )
> >
> >
> >
> >                New Public TLD (pTLD): .EXPERT
> >                registered though UN1D ( http://un1d.com
> >                )
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                Public TLD WHOIS Updated: 18-07-2008
> >                15:20
> >
> >
> >
> >                _
> >                _____________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                Please note: it may take up to 48 hours
> >                to propagate the DNS information to all
> >                the public DNS Servers in the world to
> >                resolvie the TLD mentioned above.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                To review the details of these new TLDs
> >                or other TLDs please use the Global TLD
> >                WHOIS available by clicking the link
> >                below, or copy and paste it into your
> >                address bar.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                h
> >                tp://inaic.com/index.php?p=global-tld-whois
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                _
> >                _____________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >                _
> >                _____________________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                For more information about the Next
> >                Generation Internet, Inclusive Name
> >                Space or Public-Root, please visit the
> >                INAIC home page at http://www.inaic.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >            --
> >           Joe Baptista
> >           www.publicroot.org
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