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RE: [ga] domain tastinmg comments
- To: Shane Kinsch <shane.kinsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Subject: RE: [ga] domain tastinmg comments
- From: jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:13:24 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
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<P>Shane and all,</P>
<P> </P>
<P> The $0.20 fee for ever errantly registered Domain name after x%
over,</P>
<P>does nothing or any real significance to thwart tasters, and nothing</P>
<P>at all for tasters that use certain means of tasting that beats the 5 day</P>
<P>AGP assinge limit. But if your willing to live with it as a registrar
operator,</P>
<P>that's fine with me it's your nickel and your registrars rep.<BR><BR><BR></P>
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2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Shane Kinsch
<SHANE.KINSCH@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Mar 24, 2008 9:04 AM <BR>To:
ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>Subject: RE: [ga] domain tastinmg comments
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY:
'Calibri','sans-serif'">As a legitimate registrar, we had perps fraudulently
register domains that we’ve caught within the first few days of registration
whether it be caught by the credit card company or other indications that the
registration is suspicious (such as in phishing, etc.). The grace period
is good for this and I would much rather pay $0.20 vs. loose the whole
registration fee.<?xml:namespace prefix = o /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY:
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY:
'Calibri','sans-serif'">The solution is simple… if your drop rate is above X%,
then you will be charged $0.20 for every drop. That takes care of
legitimate registrars like mine and the kiters and tasters out there will make
it financially infeasible for them to continue to operate.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY:
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY:
'Verdana','sans-serif'">Shane T Kinsch</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt;
COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">, </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY:
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</SPAN></I><I><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: navy">an ICANN Accredited
Registrar</SPAN></I><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:
'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt;
FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>chris@xxxxxx<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 08, 2008 6:53 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
domain-tasting-motion@xxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Cc:</B> GA<BR><B>Subject:</B> [ga] domain
tastinmg comments<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans
MS'">Charging 20 cents for dropped names is not going to get rid of the big
players in the domain tasting and domain kiting game. This just puts out the
message that it's ok to do domain tasting and kiting as long as ICANN also
profits from the practice. Elimination of the grace period is the answer to
domain tasting and kiting.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans
MS'">It is very simple to understand for most of us and I find it hard to
believe claims by ICANN staff and board members that they don't get it. When a
user subscribes to an ezine or joins a forum, they fill out a form. Then they
get an email asking them to confirm that they indeed want to join or subscribe.
It's called double opt-in.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans
MS'">Domain names can be registered the same exact way. You fill out the forms
to register your domain name. You get an email that asks, "Are you sure you
want to register this domain name?". It adds, please check your spelling and
everything because by clicking this link you agree that you are registering the
domain name at a cost of $xx and that there are no
refunds.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans
MS'">That allows for any mistakes someone made when filling out the
registration form. It's simple enough for anyone to understand. It gives the
registrant a chance to change their mind satisfying buyer's remorse. Show me
any policy that allows five days for buyer's remorse on an item that usually,
with the exception of a couple of registrars, costs around $10.
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans
MS'">In addition to that, for every one domain name that is legitimately
dropped during the grace period, there are 100,000 dropped by domain kiters and
domain tasters. The grace period only serves those in the business of domain
tasting and domain kiting. Pretense that there are other reasons to allow a
five day grace period is just nonsense.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans
MS'">Chris McElroy</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:
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