[ga] [Fwd: Re: [At-Large] AT-LARGE ANNOUNCEMENT: Resignation of ALAC Vice-Chair]

["Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

All,

  For those that are interested in these ALAC shanagans!

FWIW, it appears that these errant attempts at censorship
in such a disengsnious manor and use of language are 
laughable and also quite sad and pathetic. >:(

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [At-Large] AT-LARGE ANNOUNCEMENT: Resignation of  ALAC
Vice-Chair
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 22:33:37 -0700
From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Organization: IDNS
To: At-Large Staff <staff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
CC: DOC/NTIA ICANN Rep <aheineman@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,Peter Dengate Thrush
<barrister@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,"twomey@xxxxxxxxx" <twomey@xxxxxxxxx>, Avri
Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>,Dominik Filipp <dominik.filipp@xxxxxxxx>,Cheryl
Langdon-Orr <cheryl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,Chris McElroy <chris@xxxxxx>
References: <C4056CAE.18F4F%staff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<47E024B4.A620B446@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <47E07D8B.8050807@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Cheryl and all,

  Really?!  Well there wasn't any documentation on the
ALAC web pages regarding such.  Can you point me to
where such is documented, i.e. where, whom conducted
this/these "Elections", how they were conducted, where the
ballot tally is, if any, how the users were notified of such, if
such was actually done?  Did you register this election with the
FEC?  If not, why not?  If so, I shall shoot out a FOIA request
for that data immediately! >:)  I know none of our members
were so notified, nor was I.

BTW as to "variance with the user community majority and
other expert advise".  What "Expert Advise" are you speaking
of?  From what I and my staff can glean, there are precious few
"Experts" engaged with the ALAC or ALS's.  And yes, we
do have monitors of all the ALS's and have had sense such was
initiated...  As such some of these exchanges *May* find themselves
on other non-ICANN related public open blogs, news sites, ect.
at any time without my prior knowledge.  So a word to the wise,
be careful what you post.  Enough said I hope...

  And also, if sending something "In my own opinion" is a rule
violation of which of those rules? Again, where are said rules
documented? Link? I have ask for the link to on 5 different occasions!
>:)
It's extraordinary I have yet to see or have received an answer to
those previous queries of same!  BTW, sending to individual Email
addresses is not "Cross posting" as you stated, it is copying and/or
"CC'ing", where CC is not equal to Cross post but is Carbon Copy
as such.  Ergo, if such a rule does exist, I didn't violate it as you
state.

  Further, as I did not sign up for the "Staff" email address, I
was surprised my post went to that EM address.  Not that I
mind or care if it does or doesn't.  I only did a "Reply ALL"
and added other interested recipients as would or should
be appropriate.

  In closing, please be aware, that any and all posts that come to
me that are ICANN related are copied to some 1.7m users by
their own CHOICE and so archived for historic purposes
accordingly.  Those archives are encrypted of course so that
errant parties cannot engage in revisionist historic endeavors
as some of us have seen done before...

Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote:

> Jeffrey... Be advised of two (2) short points in reaction to this post...
>
> 1. ALAC has no 'self appointed leadership' we have elected leaders
> appointed under posted rules that are chosen with user community
> input... Unless you somehow define the ALS & RALO structure that
> contribute 2/3rds of the ALAC make up, as for some reason, NOT being
> representative and if that is the case you are at variance with the user
> community majority and other expert advise...
>
> 2. Your distribution list on this message is 'In My Opinion' a violation
> of our cross posting rule... So take this message as notice that... "if
> this transgression occurs again then you will be sanctioned further by:-
> a) greater moderation occurring to ensure that only messages that DO
> comply with our Rules of Procedure are forwarded to the list this will
> require a high level of human intervention and considerable delay in any
> posting can be expected..
>  OR
> b) removal from the list for a period to be determined by the Executive/
> and or ALAC as a whole"...
>
> Cheryl Langdon-Orr
> ALAC Chair 2007-2008
>
> Jeffrey A. Williams wrote:
>
> >All,
> >
> >  Indeed it is unfortunate that Robert had or is for personal reasons
> >resigning.  I believe it would be advantageous for all of the ALAC self
> >appointed leadership to resign accordingly as they cannot legitimately
> >represent the user community as they were not chosen or elected
> >by the user community in the first place, and as such seemingly are
> >in violation of the MOU.
> >
> >At-Large Staff wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Dear Community:
> >>
> >>The Chair of the ALAC has requested that the At-Large Staff notify you that
> >>Robert Guerra has resigned his office as Vice-Chair of the At-Large Advisory
> >>Committee for personal reasons.
> >>
> >>The ALAC wishes to convey its thanks for his work in this position until his
> >>resignation. Robert remains an elected Member of the ALAC from North America
> >>and the representative of At-Large to the Security and Stability Advisory
> >>Committee.
> >>
> >>This situation is provided for in Rule 9.1 of the Rules of Procedure of the
> >>ALAC as adopted in October 2007:
> >>
> >>³If for any reason whatsoever (including lack of quorum, lack or loss of
> >>eligibility requirements, resignation, or recall) an officer position
> >>becomes vacant before the end of the term, the Chair will promptly start an
> >>election to fill it, by sending an ³election call² message and starting the
> >>procedure from rule 9.1²
> >>
> >>In conformity with Rule 9.1 an election call message from the Chair will be
> >>forthcoming, which will provide the relevant details of the process to elect
> >>a replacement co-Vice-Chair.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>ICANN At-Large Staff
> >>email: staff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders strong!)
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> >   Abraham Lincoln
> >
> >"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
> >very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
> >
> >"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> >liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> >P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> >United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> >===============================================================
> >Updated 1/26/04
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> >My Phone: 214-244-4827
>

Always diligent,

Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail
jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
My Phone: 214-244-4827