[ga] Re: [At-Large] Fwd: [ALAC-Internal] alac jpa draft 2

["Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Beau and all,

I have to agree with Beau, Roberto.  Of course you already knew
the answer to your question before you ask it as Danny Younger
had rightly expressed the "Role" of the ALAC on the GA forum
on several occasions and that evaluation has proven to be right.

A true and honest ALAC or "Atlarge" should be electing most of
the board members, and have at least a 70% of the seats on the GNSO
council.  Anything less than that is just another ICANN forum and not
much else.

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"Brendler, Beau" wrote:

>
> In my opinion, if we don't get what we are asking for, there is not
> much point in having an ALAC. In answer to your question, I would rate
> the "power" of the individual users compared to the "power" of the
> business constituency, registrars, etc., as about a 1 compared to a
> 10.
>
> Beau Brendler
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: alac-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Roberto
> Gaetano
> Sent: Thu 2/14/2008 12:48 PM
> To: 'Jacqueline Morris'; alac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
> ttcs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [At-Large] Fwd: [ALAC-Internal] alac jpa draft 2
>
> I have a question.
> How would you rate the "power" of the individual users (via the ALAC)
> in the ICANN process compared, for instance, to the "power" of
> business users (via the Business Constituency)? Considering that the
> ICANN model is a multistakeholder model, where different stakeholder
> groups participate on equal footing, comparable stakeholder groups are
> supposed to have similar rights.
>
> I believe that, also considering the different reviews (GNSO, NomCom
> and ALAC) ongoing, you might better be careful in what you ask for,
> because you might get it.
>
> Cheers,
> Roberto
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: alac-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:alac-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > Jacqueline Morris
> > Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2008 21:35
> > To: alac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ttcs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [At-Large] Fwd: [ALAC-Internal] alac jpa draft 2
> >
> > Fyi
> > Please comment.
> > Jacqueline
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Annette Muehlberg <annette.muehlberg@xxxxxx>
> > Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:20:14 +0430
> > Subject: [ALAC-Internal] alac jpa draft 2
> > To: ALAC internal list <alac-internal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > Dear folks,
> >
> > Here, the draft by the present drafting group members:
> > Annette, Beau, Wolf
> >
> > we stayed in the taj palace and come over to dinner now! ;-)
> >
> > see you soon
> >
> > best greetings
> >
> > annette
> >
> >
> >
> > Proposed ALAC-statement regarding JPA:
> >
> > As the JPA (between the US Government and ICANN) is under
> > Review, ALAC wishes to underline the unique opportunity the
> > occasion offers to realize the original goals that led to the
> > formation of ICANN. These include, inter alia,
> > acknowledgement of the international nature of ICANN, support
> > of the multi-stakeholder bottom-up approach to the management
> > of ICANN, and the provision of viable and stable channels for
> > the involvement of individual Internet users in the ICANN
> > policy formation process. Measures must be implemented to
> > ensure non-discriminatory availability of ICANN/IANA services
> > as well as the opportunity for the involvement of global
> > individual users in the ICANN process.
> >
> > In its role as the voice of the individual Internet users,
> > ALAC firmly believes that the current multi-stakeholder
> > framework at ICANN should be further strengthened to allow
> > more effective involvement of end-users. The process to full
> > participation of individual users through the ALAC and its
> > Regional At-Large Organizations (RALOs) is being undertaken
> > at this moment. There is, however, a lack of incentives for
> > the participants, especially a lack of direct involvement at
> > the decision-making levels of ICANN. Therefore,
> >
> > we believe ICANN should consider mechanisms for stronger user
> > participation, such as At-Large voting rights on the GNSO
> > council and the ICANN board.
> >
> > Alternative for the last sentence:
> >
> > [we think that ICANN should find ways to implement adequate
> > representation of individual users at the decision-making
> > levels of ICANN so that a real multi-stakeholder framework is
> > achieved.]
> >
> > In addition, we believe no government should have a
> > pre-eminent role in DNS management and exercise power over
> > database changes and root-server data. We suggest that an
> > institutional form should be found as soon as possible so
> > that ICANN does not lie under the authority of any single
> > national legislation. We also strongly advocate transparency
> > and openness in the process of making any structural change
> > in the ICANN framework for the coming transition.
> >
> >
> > We are concerned that the successor oversight framework is
> > still not clear and ICANN needs to clarify the transitional
> > arrangements with regard to accountability and transparency
> > as well as to allow further definition and evolution of the
> > multi-stakeholder model of governance under which it operates.
> >
> > We need to know what replaces the JPA, which refers to "the
> > global participation of all stakeholders" and "mechanisms for
> > involvement of those affected by the ICANN policies." As the
> > Internet-using public is a key set of stakeholders affected
> > by ICANN's policies, it is critical, including for Internet
> > security and stability, that the organization be accountable
> > to the public and account effectively for its input.
> >
> >
> > Respectfully submitted,
> >
> >
> >
> > Chair
> >
> > At-Large Advisory Committee
> >
> > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
> >
>
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