Re: [ga] Tasting twist?: Drop-Catching Domains Is Big Business

["Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dominik and all,

  Agreed on all of your nicely stated points, Dominik.  Further still
I would add is GoDaddy's and Twocows activity in this area as
well.  But perhaps this report was not as through as it could have
been.  And indeed we have been in contact with these folks,
and are seeking to render some aid in improving their next report
accordingly.

  My further concern is the massive restraint of trade this report
and other reported Tasting/Front running represents.  Drop-Catching
method of Tasting seems to get under the wire so to speak, of the
RAA contracts, which yet again and previously stated as a significant
flaw in those RAA contracts that sorely need revising or completely
revamped.

Regards,

Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders strong!)
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very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
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Dominik Filipp wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> especially, the second link points to a valuable document collecting
> credible comparisons and evaluation of tasting effects on .com, .net,
> and .org domains in overall means. The document also seems to correspond
> to my findings gathered during my personal research, namely the fact
> that all .com and .net domains are immediately registered after
> releasing back to the pool, and that eNom is one of the most active
> participant on the practice.
>
> However, the document is still lacking mentioning some other aspects
> and/or findings that are of similar importance
>
> a) Many (if not most of) domains being tasted are simultaneously placed
> on virtual auctions, such as Sedo, BuyDomains, etc. This can be quite
> easily verified by searching the tasted names at the auction company
> sites, quite a boring stuff though.
>
> b) The document does not seem to identify the three mentioned tasting
> registrars BelgiumDomains, DomainDoorman, and CapitolDomains as
> belonging to the same company, most likely driven by CapitolDomains LLC.
> This fact can be easily recognized by comparing the registrars' IP
> addresses.
> On the other hand, very nice identification of Wan-Fu China (and similar
> phantom registrants covering up the above mentioned registrar
> activities) as a well-known alias of "Unasi", a famous drop catcher.
>
> c) The analysis does not address at all the new trends and dangers of
> 'public domain tasting', a new phenomenon I elaborated on in my previous
> mail.
>
> We could perhaps be expecting an upgrade of the analysis in the near
> future.
>
> A nice study to look into anyway.
>
> Dominik
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Jeffrey A. Williams
> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 1:45 PM
> To: Ga; ICANN Domain name tasting
> Cc: GNSO-Liason; Peter Dengate Thrush
> Subject: [ga] Tasting twist?: Drop-Catching Domains Is Big Business
>
> All,
>
>   Do we have another "Form" of Tasting?  Well of course we do!
>
> Yet another method and reason ICANN Bod's decision to address Tasting
> does little to actually address the problem...
>
> See:
> http://www.websitemagazine.com/content/blogs/posts/archive/2008/01/31/Dr
> op_Catching_Domains_Big_Business.aspx
>
> http://www.cadna.org/en/pdf/cadna-white-paper-drop-catching.pdf
>
> News from the Coalition Against Domain Name Abuse
> (CADNA) about a recent study of drop catching a process whereby a domain
> that has expired is released into the pool of available names and is
> instantly re-registered by another party.' The eleven day study showed
> that 100% of '.com' and '.net' domain names were immediately registered
> after they had been released. CADNA has published the results with their
> own analysis. Quoting: "The results also show that 87% of Dot-COM
> drop-catchers use the domain names for pay-per-click (PPC) sites. They
> have no interest in these domain names other than leveraging them to
> post PPC ads and turn a profit. Interestingly, only 67% of Dot-ORG drop
> catchers use the domains they catch to post these sites most likely
> because Dot-ORG names are harder to monetize due to the lack of type-in
> traffic and because they tend to be used for more legitimate purposes.
>
> And so the ICANN saga continues,
> Regards,
>
> Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders strong!)
> "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
>    Abraham Lincoln
>
> "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very
> often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
>
> "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> ===============================================================
> Updated 1/26/04
> CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
> div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
> ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail
> jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx My Phone: 214-244-4827