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Re: [ga] ICANN Board can intervene to stop domain tasting for 1 year

  • To: Karl Auerbach <karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN Board can intervene to stop domain tasting for 1 year
  • From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:39:00 -0800

Karl and all,

  Excellent thoughts and remarks regarding actual vs dream land costs.
ICANN's estimate as to registry costs is outrageous at $7.00US.  As
a guess only, seems to me that your estimate at a few pennies is likely
closer to accurate.  Agreed that ICANN needs to have it's whole financial
audits independently done or IMHO at least independently verified.

  Frankly though, as ICANN itself is responsible for From Running/Tasting
in the first place, seems to me that a huge amount of $$ is due all current
registrants for this activity being hoist upon registrants, in the form of a

rebate!  Of course I realize this will likely never happen, but it should.

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Karl Auerbach wrote:

> Roberto Gaetano wrote:
> > Dominik Filipp wrote:
> >
> >     I fully agree. $0.20 re-registration fee is an insufficient
> >     solution.
> >
> > Agree.
>
> One chunk of information that is very much needed to intelligently
> discuss these matters is a believable list of the cost elements at the
> registry level of a domain name registration cycle.
>
> By my estimate it is on the order of a few units of $0.01(US), others
> have estimated it a bit higher, ICANN pegs it at around $7.00(US).
>
> If the cost elements are very low (my estimates) than rapid
> registration/de-registration may not offload costs onto the community
> and may be covered by the cost-of-money value of the amount on deposit
> by registrars at registries.
>
> But if the cost elements are high (as implied by the amount of ICANN's
> registry fees) than those who do this kind of rapid transaction stuff
> are imposing the costs of their behaviour onto the rest of us.
>
> And, if the cost elements are low, then on what grounds is ICANN
> imposing a registry fee that is inconsistent with the costs?
>
> ICANN has long needed to perform an independent, highly detailed, and
> believable audit of the *actual* costs of registry services, clearly
> separating out the various cost elements and in particular separating
> out the front-office (name registration) costs from the back-office
> (name server) costs.  (It would also be useful to know the details of
> the costs of complying with ICANN's regulatory system.)
>
> It would also be useful to have a similar cost breakdown for registrars,
> although I suspect that there is much more variance due to different
> approaches.
>
>                         --karl--




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