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Re: [ga] NSI immediately registering domains that are searched ontheir site

  • To: "Nevett, Jonathon" <jnevett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] NSI immediately registering domains that are searched ontheir site
  • From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:01:05 -0800

Jonathon and all,

  Interesting, but errant approach.  However I for one cannot see your
approach being very effective as it only has a very limited durration
can be too easily gamed.  Further I would have to say that your approach

is tantamount to restraint of trade, all be that restraint of a limited
duration.  None the less a much more comprehensive and exacting
approach to addressing both Tasting and it's cousin Front Running
that has teeth and serious consequences, seems to be in order and
a far more effective means by which to curb such miscreant activity.

  Ergo, two wrongs never make a right, Jonathon!  So please cease
and desist this practice and/or errant approach immediately!


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"Nevett, Jonathon" wrote:

> George:
> I?d like to clarify what we are doing.  In response to customer
> concerns about Domain Name Front Running (domains being registered by
> someone else just after they have conducted a domain name search), we
> have implemented a security measure to protect our customers. The
> measure will kick in when a customer searches for an available domain
> name at our website, but decides not to purchase the name immediately
> after conducting the search.
> After the search ends, we will put the domain name on reserve. During
> this reservation period, the name is not active and we do not monetize
> the traffic on these domains. If a customer searches for the domain
> again during the next 4 days at networksolutions.com, the domain will
> be available to register.  If the domain name is not purchased within
> 4 days, it will be released back to the registry and will be generally
> available for registration.
> This protection measure provides our customers the opportunity to
> register domains they have previously searched without the fear that
> the name will be already taken through Front Running.
> You are correct that we are trying to take an arrow out of the quiver
> of the tasters.  As you know, domain tasters are the largest Front
> Runners.  Due to no fault of registrars, Front Runners purchase search
> data from Internet Service Providers and/or registries and then taste
> those names.  Some folks may not agree with our approach, but we are
> trying to prevent this malicious activity from impacting our
> customers.
> Thanks.
> Jon
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of George Kirikos
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:23 PM
> To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ga] NSI immediately registering domains that are searched on
> their site
> Hi folks,
> As discussed in the thread at:
> http://www.domainstate.com/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=85864
> Network Solutions is now immediately registering available domains
> that
> are *searched* on their site. I don't see how this will last, though,
> given that lawyers can search TM'd names, and then immediately turn
> around and sue NSI for TM infringement.
> For example, see the WHOIS for:
> http://whois.domaintools.com/wearecybersquatters.com
> http://whois.domaintools.com/we-laugh-at-icann.com
> http://whois.domaintools.com/icann-staff-suck.com
> http://whois.domaintools.com/verizon-should-sue-us.com
> Registrant:
> This Domain is available at NetworkSolutions.com
> 13681 Sunrise Valley Drive, Suite 300
> HERNDON, VA20171
>    US
> I would hope that they would rethink this. Or, perhaps they're just
> hoping to accelerate the end of domain tasting, through this
> "service."
> Sincerely,
> George Kirikos
> http://www.kirikos.com/

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