RE: [ga] Questions for Joe Baptista / Eric Dierker, and why the GA list should be ended

[JFC Morfin <jefsey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dear George,
it seems that we have now the Commintern, the ICANN Travel Club, the 
AmerICANN, the PDML, The Doctors Gang, and I suppose with you the 
Excluding/Exclusive Club. OK. I have no objection to most of your 
objections, except that I am not sure about your own "real objectives".
Could you please introduce them (no teasing meant. You explain 
Danny's, I think we need to know yours'). Also why would you be more 
equal than Danny and waltz with Check Gomez, be entertained by 
Verisign, and bore Tina Dam while he would be on the phone ?
IMHO what counts is that a job is to be done to the benefit of every 
internet users. May be could we focus on:
- which job each of you/us believe to be of importance
- how best he/she can participate

jfc


At 15:58 19/09/2007, George Kirikos wrote:


> Hello,
>
> --- Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > What powers will accrue to the GNSO Registry list?
> > Will it have it's own representative structure with
> > officers, working groups, and the ability to veto
> > decisions of the Council?  Will Consensus Policy
> > Decisions require ratification by the GNSO Registry
> > membership?  Will it be funded and supported by the
> > ICANN Staff policy department?  Will its officers have
> > their travel funds paid for by ICANN so that the views
> > of the body may be properly put forward?  Or will it
> > be nothing more than a discussion list to accomodate
> > non-constituency members while only specific
> > "stakeholders" enjoy the right to vote on policy
> > matters?
>
> Oh, this is all too precious. Talk about "real objectives" --- "will
> its officers have their travel funds paid for by ICANN"? LOL
>
> Are you still harping on the fact that ICANN denied you funding??
>
> http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/ga/msg05605.html
>
> "Thank you for formally notifying me that ICANN will continue its
> exclusionary funding policy."
>
> Maybe you should spend more time not looking for a free handout. ICANN
> is not supposed to be a free world travel club. :) The amount spent on
> travel could be invested in Webex.com (or other) software to allow for
> remote participation. Domain Roundtable had full video and chat over
> the internet for their event last month, and at times had 800+ people
> participating remotely. Remote participation wouldn't let you waltz
> with Chuck Gomes or Tina Dam or dine at VeriSign-sponsored parties, but
> most people could survive without those perks, and still get real work
> and participation done.
>
> Danny is a member of the non-commercial constituency. He can get
> elected to an executive position there, if he wants travel funding paid
> for by his constituency.
>
> As for the "GA List", I notice some deluded folks are still clinging to
> this idea that it somehow meets the standard of the dictionary
> definition of a "general assembly" and has powers, etc.
>
> Let's kill that idea immediately by renaming this list to the "Public
> Discussion Mailing List" (PDML). Even the laziest journalist could then
> not mistake it for the GNSO Council, and quote its troll/kook members
> as representing anything more than it really is to ICANN.
>
> Concrete suggestion here -- I expect the only opposition to renaming
> come from the "ICANN is my ticket to travel the world for free" club.
>
> Roberto: Would you support renaming this list to the PDML to eliminate
> confusion?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> George Kirikos
> http://www.kirikos.com/