[dow2tf] Whois task force 2 notes/minutes February 2, 2004

["GNSO SECRETARIAT" <gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Please find the notes/minutes of the task force 2 teleconference held on
February 2, 2004.

Please let me know whether you would like any changes made.

Thank you

Glen de Saint Géry
GNSO Secretariat

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<p align="center"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>WHOIS Task Force 
  2 Teleconference 2 February, 2004- Minutes</b></font></p>
<p><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">ATTENDEES:<br>
  <br>
  </font></b><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font></b></p>
<p><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">GNSO Constituency representatives:<br>
  </font></b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">gTLD Registries constituency: 
  - Jordyn Buchanan - chair </font><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
  </font></b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Intellectual Property Interests 
  Constituency - Niklas Lagergren<br>
  Registrars Constituency - Thomas Keller<br>
  TLD Registries constituency </font><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">- 
  </font></b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">David Maher <br>
  Internet Service and Connectivity Providers constituency - Maggie Mansourkia 
  <br>
  Commercial and Business Users constituency:- Marilyn Cade<br>
  Non Commercial Users Constituency:- Kathryn Kleiman<br>
  <br>
  <b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Liaisons:</b></font></b><br>
  <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) 
  liaisons - Thomas Roessler </font><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
  </font></b><br>
  <b>GNSO Secretariat:</b> Glen de Saint G&eacute;ry <b><br>
  ICANN Staff Manager:</b> Barbara Roseman</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
  <b>Absent:</b><br>
  Intellectual Property Interests Constituency - Steve Metalitz <br>
  GNSO Council independent representative - Amadeu Abril I Abril <br>
  </font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="http;//www.gnso-audio.icann.org/WHOIS-20040209-tf2.mp3"><br>
  </a></font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
  <b>Agenda:<br>
  </b></font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> 1) Status of other data 
  gathering efforts - Survey - Data compilations (OCED, Epic, etc.) <br>
  2) Discussion of steps after data gathering is complete <br>
  3) AOB <br>
  </font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>1) Status of other data gathering 
  efforts - Survey - </b> <b>Data compilations (OCED, Epic, etc)</b><br>
  <b>Barbara Roseman </b>reported that the surveys to the Registrars, the GAC 
  and ccNSO had not been sent out. The problem was how to get back easy to tabulate 
  questionnaires but there was no solution found. The task force suggested that 
  the responses be made available publicly and that the questionnaires be published 
  on the GNSO website.</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">It was felt that the OECD report 
  as well as the work of the previous Whois survey results would be useful background 
  information. <br>
  <b>Barbara Roseman</b> proposed posting the links to the mailing list.<br>
  </font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Kathy Kleiman </b>offered 
  to post the EPIC documents viz:<br>
  <a href="http://www.privacyinternational.org/countries/index.html";>Privacy International 
  & EPIC's Report</a> on International Privacy Laws: http://www.privacyinternational.org/countries/index.html 
  <br>
  <b>Kathy Kleiman</b> emphasised that governmental comments that had been received 
  should be studied.<br>
  <b>Thomas Roessler</b> proposed sending the link on the <a href="http://www.datenschutz-berlin.de/doc/int/iwgdpt/dns_en.htm#TOP";>IWGDPT</a>'s 
  common position on WHOIS. <br>
  See http://www.datenschutz-berlin.de/doc/int/iwgdpt/dns_en.htm#TOP. <br>
  to the list.<br>
  <br>
  <b>Marilyn Cade</b> and <b>Barbara Roseman</b> proposed working together on 
  previous Whois task force documents.<br>
  <br>
  February 16 date for task force survey responses.<br>
  Examination of other data while waiting for survey responses.</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
  <b>2) Discussion of steps after data gathering is complete</b><br>
  <b>Jordyn Buchanan</b> commented that it was envisaged that the ICANN staff 
  would compile the data but task force involvement with the process was perhaps 
  desirable in view of the work load. <br>
  <b>Amadeu Abril I Abril</b> suggested that the data be divided up by data fields 
  or comments coming from different parties.</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Barbara Roseman</b> suggested 
  that the ICANN staff could perhaps create documents that put similar answers 
  together so that the data could then be more easily analysed.<br>
  <b>Marilyn Cade</b> asked whether the questionnaires would be machine readable, 
  and emphasized the necessity of developing a standard form to classify the data 
  for analysis. <br>
  <b>Jordyn Buchanan</b> suggested identifying several data analysis teams focussed 
  by subject area.<br>
  <b>Thomas Roessler </b>mentioned that it was possible to read the OECD report 
  through a browse feature. <br>
  <b>Kathy Kleiman</b> commenting on the amount of lengthy reports/treatises that 
  needed to be interpreted stated that it was a huge job and that statutory interpretation 
  required legal skills. The question was whether ICANN had the legal resources 
  to provide these skills to the task forces.<br>
  <b>Marilyn Cade</b> from experience working on the United States Government 
  and the European Commission, commented that the determination of the laws were 
  up to the country and not to a third party. <br>
  Evaluation of the laws and their applicability to the Whois led to a discussion 
  on whether there should be lawyers advising the task force which was felt not 
  to be a good idea.<br>
  <b>Barbara Roseman</b> suggested asking the opinion of ICANN General Counsel, 
  John Jeffrey and coming back to the task force with an answer by February 4 
  or next Whois task force 2 call on February 9, 2004 </font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Next Call:</b></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>1. Jordyn Buchanan</b> suggested 
  appointing 3 teams to analyze the data on:<br>
  </font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">- government policies and regulations, 
  feedback from the GAC.<br>
  </font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">- analysis of registrar responses 
  <br>
  user experience<br>
  </font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>2. Template for data analysis</b> 
  <br>
  <b>3. Jordyn Buchanan</b> suggested follow up with the GAC on their responses.<br>
  </font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
  </font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Jordyn Buchanan thanked 
  everyone for their presence and participation and ended the call at 17:00 UTC.<br>
  <br>
  </b> <b>Next call: Monday 9 February 2004, </b> <b>16:15 UTC, 11:15 EST, 8:15 
  Los Angeles, 17:15 CET.<br>
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