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RE: [dow1tf] Final Preliminary Draft?

  • To: "'Paul Stahura'" <stahura@xxxxxxxx>, "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>, "'dow1tf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <dow1tf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [dow1tf] Final Preliminary Draft?
  • From: "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 21:49:59 -0400
  • Sender: owner-dow1tf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Thanks Paul.  I have included your comments in the latest version (which
will be sent around shortly).  Your last comment on the White List I believe
is an implementation detail or at the very lest one that should be addressed
in the final report.  So, for now, because we have not had a chance to fully
vet, I will leave it out.  Please remember to bring it up when we start work
on the final report.


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Stahura [mailto:stahura@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 1:08 PM
To: 'Neuman, Jeff'; 'dow1tf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: RE: [dow1tf] Final Preliminary Draft?

Jeff, also, I sent the definition for footnote 25, please include it.

Below is the entire text of that message:

"Human readable format" means an output format that is not easily parsed by
computer, such as a graphical (example ".gif") or audio format file, but
that is easily interpreted by a human.


In #7 (page 17) change


"That the Requestor shall be prohibited from leasing, sublicensing,
reselling or otherwise transferring the data to any third party (except to
comply with law)."



"That the Requestor shall be prohibited from compiling, leasing,
sublicensing, reselling or otherwise transferring the data to any third
party (except to comply with law)."


I added "Compiling".  This will help prevent "carte blanche" for white-list
users.  Whois requestors should "go back to the well" for each request and
not rely on previously gotten information.



"That the Sensitive Data will not to use such databe used for marketing
purposes; and"

Can they use the non-sensitive data for marketing purposes?" should this be
just "whois data"?


On footnote 13 it says:

"This does not prohibit third parties from acting as agents from obtaining
the information and transferring such information to their principle, so
long as the principal is identified as the Requestor."

Add "and the agent complies with the limitations in this section, passes the
whois data to the principal in full and without modification, and does not
store or use the information for its own or any or any other purposes"


IMO "Whitelist" means whitelisted users can do database searches on the
data, whereas on number 7, I take these refer to one-of requests of
sensitive whois data for one particular domain name.  If there is a
whitelist, there needs to be a limit on the amount of data returned, for
example, a whitelist user should not be able to mine the whois database by
typing in "hotmail" to retrieve every domain name (and associated whois
records) for which "hotmail" appears in the whois.  Even if whitelist users
can do one query and get a large dataset back (say whois for 1000 or 100,000
domains), then I would guess that each of those registrants would need to be
notified that their whois data was obtained by the whitelist user.  

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dow1tf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-dow1tf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Neuman, Jeff
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 5:40 PM
To: 'dow1tf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Cc: Neuman, Jeff
Subject: [dow1tf] Final Preliminary Draft?


Below is a redline and clean version of the Preliminary Draft v. 6.  I
believe I have captured all of the comments that were sent.  I ended up
putting most of them in the body of the report and only a few ended up in
footnotes.  If anyone disagrees with the placement of any of the footnotes
in this draft, please let me know.  In your comments back, you need to be
specific as to which footnote you believe should be moved up to the main

One more note, I adopted some of the language from Milton on the 2
alternatives in the White List Discussion.  I also used my Chair's
discretion :) to name the second alternative the "Individual Use List."  You
will see this in the draft as well.

Anyway, I expect most of the comments at this point to be grammatical and
serious disagreements with the language.  PLEASE HELP WITH THE GRAMMATICAL
needs to be submitted by Friday.

We have been working on this draft for a long time.  Thanks to everyone for
their hard work in making this a reality!

Also, remember that this is only phase 1.  In the coming weeks we will need
you all to pay attention to the comments we receive so that we can do a
final draft.

Thanks again!!!!!

 <<Whois TF 1 - Preliminary Report v 0.6.doc>>  <<Redline 6.doc>> 

Jeffrey J. Neuman, Esq. 
Director, Law & Policy 
NeuStar, Inc. 
Loudoun Tech Center 
46000 Center Oak Plaza 
Building X 
Sterling, VA 20166 
p: (571) 434-5772 
f: (571) 434-5735 
e-mail: Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx 

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