[dow1tf] Revised draft minutes WHOIS Task Force 1 Jan. 6 2004

["GNSO SECRETARIAT" <gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Please find attached the revised minutes for WHOIS task force 1 held on
January 6, 2004.

Thank you for your comments. I hope they have been satisfactorily captured.

Glen
GNSO Secretariat

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<p align="center"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>WHOIS Task Force 
  1 Teleconference January 6, 2004 - Minutes</b></font></p>
<p><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">ATTENDEES:<br>
  </font></b></p>
<p><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">GNSO Constituency representatives:<br>
  </font></b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">gTLD Registries constituency: 
  - Jeff</font><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font></b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Neuman</font><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> 
  - </font></b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Chair</font><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
  </font></b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">gTLD Registries constituency 
  </font><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">- </font></b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">David 
  Maher</font><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
  </font></b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Commercial and Business 
  Users constituency - David Fares <br>
  Commercial and Business Users constituency - Marilyn Cade </font><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
  </font></b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Internet Service and Connectivity 
  Providers constituency: - Antonio Harris</font><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
  </font></b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Intellectual Property Interests 
  Constituency - John Wolfe<br>
  </font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Registrars Constituency - Paul 
  Stahura<br>
  Non Commercial Users Constituenc - Milton Mueller<br>
  <br>
  <b>Liaisons:</b><br>
  At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) liaisons - Wendy Seltzer &amp; Thomas Roessler<br>
  <b>ICANN Staff Manager</b>: Barbara Roseman<br>
  <b>GNSO Secretariat:</b> Glen de Saint G&eacute;ry <br>
  <br>
  <b>Absent:<br>
  </b></font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Intellectual Property Interests 
  Constituency - Jeremy Banks</font> <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">(alternate)</font><br>
  <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
  </font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Jeff Neuman</b> inquired 
  about the deliverables from Paul Stahura's group.<br>
  <b>Group 1</b> "Note going out for non-marketing uses" David Fares, Milton Mueller, 
  Paul Stahura, Barbara Roseman <br>
  No progress had been made.<br>
  Jeff Neuman requested that Paul Stahura start with the <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/dow1tf/msg00019.html";>questions</a> 
  sent to the task force:<br>
  List of some possible questions<br>
  1) Do you obtain the information via port-43 or via the web or via bulk licenses 
  (or some other way that is probably indirect)? <br>
  2) Do you disseminate the obtained whois information via port-43, or via the 
  web, or some other method, or not at all? <br>
  3) Do you store the information? <br>
  a. no, or just cached, or for longer periods <br>
  b. If 3a is not "no", then, approximately what percentage of all the whois for 
  all gTLD names do you have stored at any given moment? <br>
  4) Provide a short justification, or need, for the whois data. <br>
  <br>
  <b>Send results of the "Note going out for non-marketing uses"</b> <b>to the 
  full task force group by Friday 9 January, 2004<br>
  <br>
  Jeff Neuman</b> made reference to the the <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/dow1tf/msg00032.html";>list 
  of non marketing organization</a>, divided into 4 basic columns, Organization, 
  Interest, Contact information, Referred By<b>, </b>which had been gathered from 
  task force submissions.<b><br>
  Paul Stuhara </b>added 3 suggestions received from the Registrar constituency 
  while <b>Jeff Neuman </b>mentioned law enforcement contacts <b>Marilyn</b> <b>Cade</b> 
  had sent and proposed to add all these to the list which would be used to send 
  out the questions. <br>
  <b>Jeff Neuman</b> insisted that the more contacts there were the better.<br>
  <br>
  <b>Jeff Neuman</b> referred to Sub group 2 "Needs and justifications" chart 
  due (compiled from pre-existing data) where little progress had been made and 
  proposed that it be drafted by January 12, for discussion at the next meeting 
  January 13.<br>
  <br>
  A discussion followed on the nature of the preliminary report. If it contained 
  policy recommendations it could be called a &quot;preliminary report&quot; as 
  specified in the policy development process.<br>
  <b>Jeff Neuman</b> suggested that if only the data gathering and summary thereof 
  was possible before the Rome meeting, the report should not be called a Preliminary 
  Report, but perhaps as suggested by Barbara Roseman a &quot;summary report&quot;.<br>
  <br>
  An exchange about public comments followed. <br>
  <b>Milton Mueller </b>asked when public comments indicated a clear direction 
  for a proposed recommendation or policy to be changed, whether the TF could 
  and would change it. <br>
  <b>Barbara Roseman</b> responded that unless the Task Force (TF) met again, 
  preliminary Policy Development Process (PDP) reports only allowed the comments 
  to be noted in the report by the Task Force and passed on to the GNSO Council. 
  However the GNSO Council may take account of them to amend the report. <br>
  There was general agreement that PDP might be modified to permit direct responses 
  to public comments at the TF level. <br>
  <b>Jeff Neuman,</b> the task force chair believed that the Task Force may be 
  able to comment on whether they believed the recommendations of the preliminary 
  report should be changed to reflect the nature of the comments received. <br>
  <br>
  </font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>For next meeting January 
  13, 2004</b></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Group 
  1 &quot;Note going out for non-marketing uses&quot;</b><br>
  David Fares<br>
  Milton Mueller</font><br>
  <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Paul Stahura<br>
  Barbara Roseman<br>
  <br>
  <b>January 9, 2004: Draft note to task Force<br>
  January 13/14 Discuss the note, then send the note out to the groups.<br>
  </b><br>
  <br>
  </font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b> Group 2 &quot;Workshop 
  material: start chart of needs and justifications&quot;</b><br>
  John Wolfe<br>
  Jeremy Banks<br>
  David Maher<br>
  Tony Harris<br>
  Wendy Setltzer<br>
  <br>
  <b>January 12, 2004:</b> charts based on materials from workshops and ICANN. 
  <br>
  <b>January 13, 2004: </b>discuss the needs and justification chart</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Jeff Neuman thanked everyone for 
  their presence and participation and ended the call at 16:40 UTC.<br>
  <br>
  </b> <b>Next call: Tuesday 13 January 2004, </b> <b>16:00 UTC, 11:00 EST, 8:00 
  Los Angeles, 17:00 CET.<br>
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