ICANN/GNSO GNSO Email List Archives

[council]


<<< Chronological Index >>>    <<< Thread Index >>>

Re: [council] For your review - GNSO Review of GAC Communique Hyderabad

  • To: policy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Subject: Re: [council] For your review - GNSO Review of GAC Communique Hyderabad
  • From: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@xxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 22:00:30 -0200
  • Authentication-results: mail.nic.br (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nic.br
  • Cc: Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>, "council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nic.br; s=dkim; t=1481587230; bh=VGTbx3r9H9lRyAD4XJ6suCBSNSTgIEUr5c0VvNeoL3U=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From; b=JJ1LspjsW6dUcS21Gb2NOdCdt78W4GIeC7zcB0eVhl5luXDkSIOlHCSeItUzA9ujy WU9b1s8DlVlZs+PHWKzOq2RLag62byH77MPALcfwPFmHvZprRhoygKftKPXGE/Sh8l V4KgavgDrM+bc400CWDjLRstHMLZiNSdcVTv8ob0=
  • Dmarc-filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.1 mail.nic.br D22F71D39B9
  • In-reply-to: <20161212155607.196dc3a93c35c991bce5ceb11d0fbfbb.9a091d596e.wbe@email17.godaddy.com>
  • List-id: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • References: <20161212155607.196dc3a93c35c991bce5ceb11d0fbfbb.9a091d596e.wbe@email17.godaddy.com>
  • Sender: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx


> On Dec 12, 2016, at 8:56 PM, policy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> 
> Quick check of the ICANN website seems to indicate all sorts of references to 
> DNS Abuse.  Rubens, does something need a computer science definition even if 
> the rest of the community seems to already know what it is?  

If we want to define a standard, the answer is yes, we need a computer science 
definition; if we want to define practices, then we don't need. That's why the 
community has been defining practices but no standards for almost 20 years; 
that's what we can do, given the circumstances. 

Let's drill down on one thing that is behind a standard in almost every human 
knowledge area: a taxonomy. No taxonomy survived more than a couple of years in 
the Abuse area, and every yearly meeting of APWG and M3AAWG one of the 
presentations is likely to be one of a new taxonomy. Now trying building a 
framework where the taxonomy keeps changing... it falls apart every time and 
needs to be rebuilt every time. 

The lack of definition is a good thing, though; it allows an evolving threat 
scenario to be dealt with by an evolving anti-abuse culture and continuously 
improved anti-abuse procedures. The opponent we need to fight follows a famous 
Asian strategist:
"When campaigning, be swift as the wind; (…) as unfathomable as the clouds, 
move like a thunderbolt.” ; if we stay in a single place with a single way of 
defending we will start being more vulnerable. Law of Unintended Consequences 
at its best. 


Rubens












 













<<< Chronological Index >>>    <<< Thread Index >>>