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Re: [council] Preliminary planning for ICANN58

Love this idea.

Thanks –
J.

On 11/29/16, 14:03 , "Austin, Donna" <Donna.Austin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

    I agree 100% -- let's have two policy meetings a year and one AGM with 
bells and whistles.
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G. [mailto:crg@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
    Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 11:58 AM
    To: Austin, Donna <Donna.Austin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
    Cc: James M. Bladel <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Michele Neylon - Blacknight 
<michele@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Edward Morris <egmorris1@xxxxxxxxx>; GNSO Council 
List <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Subject: Re: [council] Preliminary planning for ICANN58
    
    Dear Donna,
    
    I´m aware of the background and the great design work based on past 
experience.
    
    But I just have to say that the new meeting meeting ‘strategy’  was largely 
designed to pelase everybody and before we could measure the impact of the new 
empowered community CCWGs, overlapping AoC reviews, and 1000+ new gTLDs and GDD 
exclusive gatherings, which require an increasing number of small meetings 
along the year at great cost and expense.
    
    Having said that, I must confess that Helsinki was a great surprise in 
“policy-efficiency” and reduced non-sense I would like to emulate as far as 
possible. Looking forward, we should take the best of the new meetings format 
(and forget such ones as Hyderabad). Nobody said we can keep improving.
    
    Lets hope for an ICANN58 where we can work effectively.
    
    Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
    +506 8837 7176
    Skype: carlos.raulg
    Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica)
    On 29 Nov 2016, at 12:32, Austin, Donna wrote:
    
    > Hi Carlos
    >
    > While your suggestion makes perfect sense the reality is that the 
    > smaller meeting B, ie Policy Meetings, were designed to enable ICANN 
    > to host meetings in locations predominately in the African and LAC 
    > regions that can no longer host the larger ICANN meetings.
    >
    > Prior to the establishment of the Meeting Strategy Working Group 
    > (MSWG), Nick Tomasso published a proposal suggesting that hub 
    > locations be used, although Nick called them Consolidated Meeting 
    > Locations, and adjusted the rotation through regions. Nick's proposal 
    > was rejected and the MSWG was established.
    >
    > Nick's proposal is available at: 
    > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_
    > system_files_files_meetings-2Dproposal-2D02oct12-2Den.pdf&d=DgIFaQ&c=M
    > OptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=4A3LwUUER9_CePZ11QJsr56eryGQiPHEqv4TL7JH87w&m=
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    >
    > The MSWG also discussed the idea of hubs as well but agreed to 
    > continue regional rotation.
    >
    > Donna
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    > [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carlos Raúl 
    > Gutiérrez G.
    > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 8:16 PM
    > To: James M. Bladel <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
    > Cc: Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Edward 
    > Morris <egmorris1@xxxxxxxxx>; GNSO Council List 
    > <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    > Subject: Re: [council] Preliminary planning for ICANN58
    >
    >
    > Thank you James.
    > But here we are working on the 2nd derivative: ICANN hubs for Policy
    > (short) Meetings.
    > Don´t know if this was also discarded.
    >
    > Cheers
    >
    > Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
    > +506 8837 7176
    > Skype: carlos.raulg
    > Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica) On 28 Nov 2016, at 20:34, James 
    > M. Bladel wrote:
    >
    >> Just a note that the Meeting Strategy Working Group examined the idea 
    >> of “rotating hubs”, and rejected them.  Mostly by folks from smaller 
    >> and/or more distant locations who were concerned that ICANN would be 
    >> permanently absent from their region.
    >>
    >> I don’t agree, but that was their finding.
    >>
    >> Thanks –
    >>
    >> J.
    >>
    >> On 11/28/16, 11:59 , "Michele Neylon - Blacknight"
    >> <michele@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    >>
    >>     Carlos
    >>
    >>     Ah ok, so the ICANN hubs.
    >>     That makes a lot of sense from a cost and logistics perspective.
    >>
    >>     Regards
    >>
    >>     Michele
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    >>     On 28/11/2016, 11:33, "Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G."
    >> <crg@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    >>
    >>         ICANN hubs: LA, Istambul and Singapore.
    >>
    >>         I assume that those places are central located in terms of 
    >> airlines
    >>         logistics, already have a minimum of ICANN staff available, 
    >> facilites,
    >>         etc. and would greatly reduce the cost to set up meetings (A 
    >> recent
    >>         meeting of the CCT-RT in Washington DC had to fly in as many 
    >> ICANN staff
    >>         members as RT members, which calls for more reasonable places 
    >> to meet,
    >>         particularly for mainle “working” meetings like the Policy 
    >> Format
    >>         calls for).
    >>
    >>         Cheers
    >>
    >>         Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
    >>         +506 8837 7176
    >>         Skype: carlos.raulg
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    >>         On 26 Nov 2016, at 10:14, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
    >>
    >>         > Carlos
    >>         >
    >>         > Which locations would you see as being “hubs”?
    >>         >
    >>         > Regards
    >>         >
    >>         > Michele
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