Re: [council] Intellectual Property Constituency Communication to ICANN Regarding dotSUCKS

[Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

Apologies for coming back to this thread so late, but just wanted to voice my 
support of the perspectives offered by Volker and James. As this gTLD has 
already been delegated, and unless there is any reason to believe the registry 
is not in compliance with its Registry Agreement, I don’t see why ICANN staff 
would be required or mandated to freeze the launch of .SUCKS.

One part of the blog by Allen Grogen caught my attention, and I probably need 
to look into this a bit more closely before opining:

“…, if Vox Populi is not complying with all applicable laws, it may also be in 
breach of its registry agreement. ICANN could then act consistently with its 
public interest goals and consumer and business protections to change these 
practices through our contractual relationship with the registry.”

Personally speaking, although I understand the concerns raised by the IPC, I’m 
not convinced that there is necessarily any malicious intent on the part of Vox 
Populi. Like Volker said, I agree that this is an interesting business model. 
Just not entirely sure its actual objective is to extort trademark holders. If 
the IPC would like to suggest initiation of a policy process to somehow address 
this, that would be its prerogative. Additionally, should ICANN compliance 
staff determine that there indeed is a contractual issue ICANN needs to 
resolve, I would recommend that a discussion about this be held with the GNSO 
to clarify the reasoning.

Thanks.

Amr

On Apr 1, 2015, at 6:12 PM, James M. Bladel <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Agree with Volker.  
> 
> This TLD has attracted quite a bit of (negative, and perhaps deservedly so) 
> attention recently, but I am confused by this letter.  The window to take 
> action was likely prior to delegation.  Once the TLD is delegated and the 
> contract is signed, I don’t see ICANN Staff having the authority to do 
> anything to “halt” the launch.  Probably why they didn’t….
> 
> Thanks—
> 
> J.
> 
> From: Volker Greimann <vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 10:28 
> To: "jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, GNSO Council List 
> <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [council] FW: Intellectual Property Constituency Communication 
> to ICANN Regarding dotSUCKS
> 
> Interesting business model, but not really an issue for the GNSO, unless 
> someone is proposing to take this as a basis for new policy development. 
> As an observer with no skin in this game, this looks to be an issue for 
> compliance to determine if the model violates the policies and/or contracts 
> or not and if it does, to take action accordingly. 
> 
> For the interesting question of the different fee structure, there seems to 
> be an explanation already:
> http://domainincite.com/18282-that-mystery-1-million-sucks-fee-explained-and-its-probably-not-what-you-thought
> 
> Best,
> 
> VG 
> 
> Am 01.04.2015 um 11:49 schrieb Jonathan Robinson:
>> All.
>>  
>> FYI.
>>  
>> Jonathan
>>  
>> From: Greg Shatan [mailto:gregshatanipc@xxxxxxxxx] 
>> Sent: 27 March 2015 20:45
>> To: Jonathan Robinson
>> Subject: Fwd: Intellectual Property Constituency Communication to ICANN 
>> Regarding dotSUCKS
>>  
>> Dear Jonathan,
>>  
>> It was ​a pleasure working with you in Istanbul.  
>>  
>> In your role as Chair of the ​GNSO, I am sending you a copy of the attached 
>> letter, just sent to ICANN, expressing the concerns of the Intellectual 
>> Property Constituency regarding the .SUCKS registry.
>>  
>> Best Regards,
>> ​
>> Greg​
>>  
>>  
>> Greg​ory S.​Shatan
>> President, Intellectual Property Constituency
>>  
>>  
>>  
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